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jsled 01-20-2007 04:22 PM


Originally Posted by FoxHunter (Post 105478)
Except with all the exemption requests the FAA has been receiving and expected to approve you can expect very little "Move em' out!!":D ;)

Heck, we have 24 this month alone. We will see about these "exemptions". First I have heard of them.

130JDrvr 01-20-2007 06:23 PM


Originally Posted by FoxHunter (Post 105478)
Except with all the exemption requests the FAA has been receiving and expected to approve you can expect very little "Move em' out!!":D ;)

Fox,

When do I get to move up a number in the 11 bid pack? :)

Past...

Andy 01-21-2007 05:03 AM


Originally Posted by FoxHunter (Post 105478)
Except with all the exemption requests the FAA has been receiving and expected to approve you can expect very little "Move em' out!!":D ;)

Expected to approve? By whom? The FAA has never approved an exemption. I don't see them starting now; do you have some secret insight into this?

Andy 01-21-2007 05:04 AM


Originally Posted by jsled (Post 105453)
Guys, this is the 3rd S.65 in three years. What makes you think this one will pass? Heck, it might not even make it out of committee. Last year it did, with almost all Dems against. Now the Dems are in control!!! Anyway, for every day it stays 60, more people punch out of the big iron!!! :D

Sen Inouye and Rockefeller won't let this out of committee. That's where 90% of bills die; in committee.

Andy 01-21-2007 05:05 AM


Originally Posted by FoxHunter (Post 105461)
Looks like it will change with or without Congress.:D :D

IF the NPRM was a slam dunk, it would've already been announced. That Continental pilot who died inflight yesterday won't help your cause.

http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/01/20/pil....ap/index.html

pinseeker 01-21-2007 05:25 AM


Originally Posted by FoxHunter (Post 105399)
Interesting! I think the company will take the position that they can move the S/Os back to the front seats. The also have some protection with the wording of the bill but not total protection. The CBA never mentions "age 60", it only talks about the "regulated age".

I agree. If age 65 passes, then the company can put s/o's back in the left seat but will only do so to fill vacancies. As new bids post, those in the back could bid to the front again to fill vacancies. Passover would be paid only to those who could have held the front on the bid but the company chose not to train them because of time until they reach 65 (ie., a 64 year old could have held it but they trained a junior 60 year old to get the most bang for their buck instead). The company will only do what they have to by law or labor agreement and not a penny more. The question is, how many vacancies will there be when the rule changes and those 58 and 59 year olds decide to stay. I think the only way that those in the back that are over 60 will see the front again or get paid for it is through growth. Thoughts?

FreightDawgyDog 01-21-2007 05:52 AM

"Except with all the exemption requests the FAA has been receiving and expected to approve you can expect very little "Move em' out!!"

C'mon Mister Grumpy Pants..aren't you tired of this yet? You have been acting like the cat that ate the canary for years when it comes to Age 60 changing. You think you have all the info that it is going to change and when it doesn't you start calling those against it names like bigots and scabs. Truth is you have very little idea of what is going to happen, or if it does, when. You just keep acting like you know more than us though and keep heading towards your inevitable retirement. In the meantime, enjoy the seniority that was given to you by those that retired because of Age 60. My guess is you will join them before any rule change takes effect...

FoxHunter 01-21-2007 06:55 AM


Originally Posted by 130JDrvr (Post 105530)
Fox,

When do I get to move up a number in the 11 bid pack? :)

Past...

Around six years from now.;)

FoxHunter 01-21-2007 07:01 AM


Originally Posted by Andy (Post 105612)
Sen Inouye and Rockefeller won't let this out of committee. That's where 90% of bills die; in committee.

That sounds fine with me. With no action by Congress the courts will be able to answer the question or the UAL pilots that have already turned age 60 and want to reclaim their seniority.:)

FoxHunter 01-21-2007 07:04 AM


Originally Posted by Andy (Post 105614)
IF the NPRM was a slam dunk, it would've already been announced. That Continental pilot who died inflight yesterday won't help your cause.

http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/01/20/pil....ap/index.html

That incident demonstrated that it was a non event. Just a sad occurance for the family, co-workers of the deceased pilot.


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