Because he had grandchildren and knew sooner or later, years in the future, a spouse would mis-represent what happened so he wanted to be prepared.

Actually I'm pretty even handed in my responses, I try to refrain from the insults that are so easy when we are responding anonymously via Iphone, and keyboard, in many cases if we were all face to face the tone of these conversations would be markedly different, but in your case especially when you you were basically calling Oscar a disgrace to the uniform when your own bonafides are highly suspect, well I felt obligated to respond.

If he is a personal friend of yours - I understand.
If he is not, why would that bother you but his calling 2 different people a Coward in the environment you just described does not?

I personally would never use that word. I cringe when I see it used by others so lightly in our society. Usually, and I stress usually, by those who have never experienced combat.
I really don't care what his background may be - the fact that a Marine would call another Marine a Coward - it is not a word that fits on a web site forum. I have nothing else to say about it.

What is your opinion about the behavior of SWAPA, SWA and ALPA during the SLI negotiations?

Cowardly? 😜

Well BS, I will try one more time to present the reason why most are having difficulty with your recent appearance on APC.

First off many have stated that your credibility is suspect. Why? You come on rehashing old news and stir up the usual suspects on both sides of the issue. When questioned about why you would care you state that you are just a "crusader for truth and justice." Fair enough until you spilt the discussion off using 4 different threads because you have a "few" questions you would like answered. It was quite obvious from the beginning that you were biased and didn't really want to hear opinions that OSW folks had. I won't go back and read all your posts again because I found them to be rambling and disjointed at times (sentence structure and grammar were distracting). Let' just say when you use terms liked "wiped out careers" and "shameful" to describe how you felt the AT folks were treated you weren't looking for your questions to be answered. You had already formed an opinion in favor of the AT folks. It would be nice if you would at least concede that point.

When you were asked questions over and over about why you cared so much. Nothing.........it shouldn't matter you said. Well as any competent Marine knows SA is a valuable thing. You gave those inquiring the flippant "trust me" and "believe me" comments which failed to establish that credibility thingy. "Well I had someone on my JS", "I overheard a conversation on the hotel van", and "I had a conversation at a soccer game" so just trust me doesn't establish you as trustworthy. My favorite is the access you had to a confidential discussion SWAPA had with it's members and how you won't divulge how you came by that access.

Frankly I don't trust you because you can't even answer a simple question like what your MOS was. My guess is you are either lying about having been at AT or you have a close relative (son or daughter) who you feel was not treated fairly. Are any of those thoughts of mine true?

More to come

The Oscar

BS seems to really like to cherry pick his responses. I've posted this three times and he's never responded to this logical black hole in his accusation:

If SWAPA was in colusion with SWA to shut down AT if there was no negotiated agreement, why in the world would 84% of SWAPA vote to implement a negotiated agreement?

It seems like he thinks there was a conspiracy, but if we had a conspiracy, we should have acted on it by voting NO to the SLI and forcing management to do what we had secretly agreed to.

Proof positive that at least 84% of SWAPA didn't listen to the secret phone call, or didn't hear the same thing in the secret phone call, or didn't believe what they heard in the secret phone call. Thereby making whatever was said in the secret phone call irrelevant.

But...whatever BS, just keep spouting out about the secret phone call that only you heard.

I will also man up and apologize to BS for using the term coward in reference to him. The other person I will not though. He/she (the WM) has basically threatened OSW folks and has become so unhinged with hatred that I question the mental health of said individual. Hiding out and spewing hatred and vitriol towards others on an anonymous forum is cowardly.

I personally wish to hear the other side's point of view. My biases and life experiences might cause me to disagree with an opinion of another. However, a discussion is just that and should never rise to the level of hatred. Therefore, I again apologize to Brakes Set.

I would request that he try to refrain from using condescending terms like "son" or telling others who have as much (or as little) invested as BS says he does to stay off the thread. After all it is an anonymous forum and everyone has the right to say they know everything and their opinion is the only one that matters.:rolleyes:

The Oscar

Thank you Sir.
It is behind us.

When I used that term "Son" it was after a few post made by that individual. He had continued with the personal taunts. He began early on by characterizing my first post (made when I registered for the ability to post)incorrectly. I saw what I assumed was someone young rip into someone I knew personally. My friend would have been someone to know in this industry. I too have no respect like you described.

727C47,

Thanks for covering my six!