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#61
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Position: MD-11 FO
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Actually no. My commute is typically on a different airbus operator. I am just presenting facts.
The APU on the bus (not counting flap open time) takes 60 to 80 seconds to start supplying electrical power to the aircraft. The RAT deploys when no generators are working on the airplane. So either the APU started nearly instantly or the aircraft had a working generator (i.e. an engine making power). Which was it?
The APU on the bus (not counting flap open time) takes 60 to 80 seconds to start supplying electrical power to the aircraft. The RAT deploys when no generators are working on the airplane. So either the APU started nearly instantly or the aircraft had a working generator (i.e. an engine making power). Which was it?
#62
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Joined APC: Sep 2012
Position: Babysitter
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If only we had cheerleader or dirty all would be good. Of course something tells me I would get, "you're on dirty!!!"...Hmm yes I am, that's what the frequency is for you tool. But you know it's easy to tell the guard police, they're the ones that respond to center before hitting that darn one more button back to radio 1. lol
#63
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Reguardless, my original point was the man is not the god that a lot of people make him out to be. Even when presented with compelling argument to the contrary it appears you still view him as such.
Now ask yourself this: if it were a regional pilot that did the exact same thing would you still hold them with the same regard you hold Sully?
#65
Either way an engine making some power deserves a little discussion before attempting a maneuver that has an unbelievably low chance of success. The fact that no discussion happened implies it went unnoticed. Luckily that incident didn't come with fatalities. The whole point of analyzing accitdents is to learn from them. "Armchair quaterbacking" stems from that process. It is disingenuous to not learn/discuss where improvements could have been made simply because it happened to work out ok.
Reguardless, my original point was the man is not the god that a lot of people make him out to be. Even when presented with compelling argument to the contrary it appears you still view him as such.
Now ask yourself this: if it were a regional pilot that did the exact same thing would you still hold them with the same regard you hold Sully?
Reguardless, my original point was the man is not the god that a lot of people make him out to be. Even when presented with compelling argument to the contrary it appears you still view him as such.
Now ask yourself this: if it were a regional pilot that did the exact same thing would you still hold them with the same regard you hold Sully?
He is a professional.
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#66
Either way an engine making some power deserves a little discussion before attempting a maneuver that has an unbelievably low chance of success. The fact that no discussion happened implies it went unnoticed. Luckily that incident didn't come with fatalities. The whole point of analyzing accitdents is to learn from them. "Armchair quaterbacking" stems from that process. It is disingenuous to not learn/discuss where improvements could have been made simply because it happened to work out ok.
Reguardless, my original point was the man is not the god that a lot of people make him out to be. Even when presented with compelling argument to the contrary it appears you still view him as such.
Now ask yourself this: if it were a regional pilot that did the exact same thing would you still hold them with the same regard you hold Sully?
Reguardless, my original point was the man is not the god that a lot of people make him out to be. Even when presented with compelling argument to the contrary it appears you still view him as such.
Now ask yourself this: if it were a regional pilot that did the exact same thing would you still hold them with the same regard you hold Sully?
Apparently you've never had an engine failure...in real life.
#67
No, we did not all pass the same ATP ride. I have seen three training departments and they all varied greatly. One was run by a bunch of check airmen who went from a 172 to a turboprop check airmen in two years. As a result, they tried to give me a TP for being -3 REF at 10 feet above the runway. The next training department was superb and spent a lot of time reviewing FOQA data and addressing common human factors issues. As a result, the training prepared us both for the worst case scenarios, like an engine failure at V1, while also training us to catch smaller problems much earlier in the accident chain. The other training department had no idea when to fly the special engine departure procedures and told me when you have an engine failure during takeoff, the priority is to get back to the runway as soon as possible, not to run the checklist. I have heard one company even tell me that the market is to competitive to do any more than the bare minimum the FAA requires. I passed all three type rides and recurrent rides, but the quality of all three training departments varied greatly.
#68
Engines do not necessarily die immediately in that situation, and that is exactly the case here. The APU takes around 40 seconds to start on fifi.
What's sad is a supposed professional pilot coming to conclusions like you have with an obvious significant lack of knowledge both of the event and the functionality of the aircraft involved.
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Either way an engine making some power deserves a little discussion before attempting a maneuver that has an unbelievably low chance of success. The fact that no discussion happened implies it went unnoticed. Luckily that incident didn't come with fatalities. The whole point of analyzing accitdents is to learn from them. "Armchair quaterbacking" stems from that process. It is disingenuous to not learn/discuss where improvements could have been made simply because it happened to work out ok.
Reguardless, my original point was the man is not the god that a lot of people make him out to be. Even when presented with compelling argument to the contrary it appears you still view him as such.
Now ask yourself this: if it were a regional pilot that did the exact same thing would you still hold them with the same regard you hold Sully?
Reguardless, my original point was the man is not the god that a lot of people make him out to be. Even when presented with compelling argument to the contrary it appears you still view him as such.
Now ask yourself this: if it were a regional pilot that did the exact same thing would you still hold them with the same regard you hold Sully?
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