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dojetdriver 01-28-2007 08:15 AM


Originally Posted by reCALcitrant (Post 108998)
Just for what it's worth. I was hired with 2000 hours, not a son, intern, etc. and will probably be a widebody captain at 5 years. I can promise you I am more than qualified. Not just the time, it's the type of time a person has.

Wow, qualified. And humble to boot.

Do you think that YOU are the ONLY one with quality flight time? Does that mean that they should negotiate a side letter so that superior pilots like you with "quality" flight time can bypass the more senior son/daughter/intern pilots who never had any PIC time?

jsled 01-28-2007 08:23 AM


Originally Posted by reCALcitrant (Post 108999)
Why worry about that brother....nothing you can do but play todays rules.

Thats right, today's rules. But tomorrow's rules can be quite different. So many guys were 3 year captains only to be 1000 from the bottom at 5 years. Thats ok unless you have already bought the captain's house, boat, airplane, ect. Go ahead, play by today's rules. Just realize that the rules change quickly. There is nothing like a monthly bump letter rather than a monthy vacancy to dampen your spirits.:(

reCALcitrant 01-28-2007 01:36 PM


Originally Posted by jsled (Post 109041)
Thats right, today's rules. But tomorrow's rules can be quite different. So many guys were 3 year captains only to be 1000 from the bottom at 5 years. Thats ok unless you have already bought the captain's house, boat, airplane, ect. Go ahead, play by today's rules. Just realize that the rules change quickly. There is nothing like a monthly bump letter rather than a monthy vacancy to dampen your spirits.:(

That's so true.

reCALcitrant 01-28-2007 01:40 PM


Originally Posted by dojetdriver (Post 109038)
Wow, qualified. And humble to boot.

Do you think that YOU are the ONLY one with quality flight time? Does that mean that they should negotiate a side letter so that superior pilots like you with "quality" flight time can bypass the more senior son/daughter/intern pilots who never had any PIC time?

Nope. Just means you can get hired with low time if the time is what they like. I don't give a **** about sons, daughters, interns. I just play the seniority game like everyone else. If your looking for humble, you shouldn't have come to a pilot forum..the needlepoint forum is next door. My whole point was that 2000 hours in a Viper or C-5 or whatever is little more likely to get you in the door than that 2000 hours of dual given in a 152. Not boasting. Just facting. BTW, Sounds like your daddy works at the airline boy!

dundem 01-28-2007 03:40 PM

Is that needlepointforums.com?

LOL

CaptainMark 01-28-2007 03:53 PM


Originally Posted by reCALcitrant (Post 109162)
Nope. Just means you can get hired with low time if the time is what they like. I don't give a **** about sons, daughters, interns. I just play the seniority game like everyone else. If your looking for humble, you shouldn't have come to a pilot forum..the needlepoint forum is next door. My whole point was that 2000 hours in a Viper or C-5 or whatever is little more likely to get you in the door than that 2000 hours of dual given in a 152. Not boasting. Just facting. BTW, Sounds like your daddy works at the airline boy!

leave it alone...this guy is as jealous as it gets...i am glad he is off of me and on to you..good luck reCALcitrant...

LAfrequentflyer 01-28-2007 04:01 PM


Originally Posted by groovinaviator (Post 109012)
I agree completely. I am one who has very advanced flight time compared to the amount of TT I have. Sure I was hired at a regional with just under 700 TT, but over half of that was multi and almost one third was turbine (mostly jet... I had a really good internship). I had great frustration when I was denied jobs because someone with 1000 hours in a 152 (in the right seat) was somehow more qualified to fly a jet than I was. Call me young and naive, but I don't see how flying another 300hrs in the pattern in a 152 could have possibly made me a more qualified pilot.

Please be nice... This could just be my youth and in-experience talking.

I hope someone answers your question...

-LAFF

dojetdriver 01-28-2007 05:09 PM


Originally Posted by reCALcitrant (Post 109162)
Nope. Just means you can get hired with low time if the time is what they like. I don't give a **** about sons, daughters, interns. I just play the seniority game like everyone else. If your looking for humble, you shouldn't have come to a pilot forum..the needlepoint forum is next door. My whole point was that 2000 hours in a Viper or C-5 or whatever is little more likely to get you in the door than that 2000 hours of dual given in a 152. Not boasting. Just facting. BTW, Sounds like your daddy works at the airline boy!

Um, no, my dad didn't work for CAL. He worked at another airline with scabs. And no, he walked the picket line. Careful on the ASSumption. And no, I really don't have any desire to work at CAL either.

dojetdriver 01-28-2007 05:18 PM


Originally Posted by CaptainMark (Post 109216)
leave it alone...this guy is as jealous as it gets...i am glad he is off of me and on to you..good luck reCALcitrant...


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Ski Patrol 01-28-2007 05:53 PM


Originally Posted by groovinaviator (Post 109012)
I agree completely. I am one who has very advanced flight time compared to the amount of TT I have. Sure I was hired at a regional with just under 700 TT, but over half of that was multi and almost one third was turbine (mostly jet... I had a really good internship). I had great frustration when I was denied jobs because someone with 1000 hours in a 152 (in the right seat) was somehow more qualified to fly a jet than I was. Call me young and naive, but I don't see how flying another 300hrs in the pattern in a 152 could have possibly made me a more qualified pilot.

Please be nice... This could just be my youth and in-experience talking.

Very advanced flight time huh...........I've never heard that one before. You must be an amazing pilot.;) I don't know if all that multi time was spent as an MEI or right seat running the radios and checklists. If it was the latter I would take the C-152 CFI 1st. You see the CFI actually makes real go no go decisions. Who's gonna solo how's the wx etc. etc. Perhaps that is what the interviewers were looking for, then again they might have just been jealous..

Just my .02 I'm being nice


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