Not offended by the thread, just seeing that some of the comments are bigoted.

I'm Muslim, we immigrated 23 years ago to this country when I was 8. We love and cherish the values and freedoms here of our country and are proud to be Americans. I was the only one in the family to get the aviation bug so I became a pilot. The rest got real jobs as doctors :D

What happened in Paris is terrible. There are no words. My thoughts and prayers are with everyone affected by this vicious act of indiscriminate terror.

To answer your question, I don't know. I don't know why you would think I would know, or could speak for, certain Musilm countries. I don't know what the Monarch in Jordan or the Sheikh ruler of the UAE would say or will say about these attacks. In the same way I don't know why you'd be expected to answer for an American mass shooter and gun issues. Whether it's mental sickness or a religious motivated attack (but I do think you'd also have to be a mentally sick nutjob to slaughter innocent people), I can't speak for other people, countries, and rulers. You'd have to ask them. Like you, I'm just another Jersey guy who can't obtain a CCP because of how liberal it is here.

As for ISIS, we did help create that mess. Iraq in pre-2003 was Sunni ruled. Saudi the strongest Sunni county, Iran the strongest Shia. We invaded Iraq and in the process of installing democracy we put the Shias in power. Due to numerous factors, including them asking us to leave and also not providing amnesty from prosecution, we left Iraq. A civil war was inevitable if you understand that part of the world. It was only a matter of time before a Sunni led force would have started a war with the Shia led rulers. Said force came in the form of ISIS and it ended up surprising even al-Qaeda in terms of how brutal they were. Now we the western countries are attacking ISIS while ISIS attacks western targets. This is basically a proxy war between Saudi Sunni and Iran Shia. In Syria we supported the rebels. Then Russia came out of nowhere and decided to support the Assad regime and bomb his enemies. It ends up being a proxy war with the U.S. and Russia in that regard. War is messy and we and Europe countries are entrenched in all things Middle East, including setting up Iraq and Syria to what they are today. Sure, it would be ideal if the whole Middle East could wake up one day and decide to grow up and join the 21st century, but this isn't an ideal world. There really isn't a good solution at this point. You can bomb the hell out of ISIS but you can't kill an idealogy that is ISIS. It's that idealogy that will end up recruiting that French national citizen who was one of the attackers. It's also an idealogy that will get a lone wolf to attack us Americans on our home soil or places in Europe and now Russia. IMO the only hope is a generational shift as time goes on. The kids' kids' kids who decide that enough is enough, they've gotten nowhere, and it's time to stop the insanity. Just as some other religions did a long, long time ago. I personally don't think we'll see a solution to anything in the Middle East in my lifetime.

The invasion against the West has intensified with the mass migration of unvetted Syrians entering Europe to join sleeper cells waiting for their time to rise up and commit mass murder.

Let's not rule out any secret deals made by Louis Farrakhan, you know, Mr. Nation of Islam, who also promotes hatred.

Nowhere in the world will be free from chaos, terrorism, and mass murder from these subhuman animals, unless all free nations unite, step up and exterminate these cockroaches.

I applaud you ShyGuy for attaining what you have attained, but you're wrong. First, these comments are not bigoted. Terrorism since prior to 9/11 has been accomplished by individuals who are Islamic, worship Allah and are eager to expand and convert non believers to their religion. That's just fact. Secondly, to blame terrorism on US policy is just sympathizing with the terrorists. Every single, every single Muslim country in the world wants to see the destruction of Israel, and the vast majority of those countries put Israel's destruction as their primary goal. Terrorism comes down to one thing, a cowardly group who cannot or will not change things peacefully but by force. Those that sympathize with terrorists or try to rationalize it are in effect terrorists themselves. It's a plain, blunt truth. I hate to say it, but the truth is brutal and no one wants to hear it. If Muslims will not or cannot stop their own people from doing this, I really fear pushed too far, Western Civilization will do it, if for no other reason than its own survival. I really hate to say it, but if the Paris attacks happen in Chicago, New York or LA for example, it's going to be war on Muslims in this country. God help us it NEVER comes to that.

We had OK city, it is a tiny amount of the Muslim population that is causing issues, you cannot lump all of them into the same group. Its about Hearts and Minds, there is no simple solution. Its difficult to fight an ideology, which ones do you go after, last I saw they do not wear uniforms as such...just asking. Thx

As Americans, we need to DEMAND that NO men under the age of 50 be allowed into this country from any Muslim country. None. For no reason.

:rolleyes:What I find hypocritical is that our country, yes our good old U.S.A. will allow citizens of a country that share an ideology that will not rest until the last drop of blood is drained from the last dying Israeli. What is the matter with the world. Cruel as it may be, but Euroland and the U.S. made a horrible mistake by pledging admittance to the Syrians. Funny... Jordan, Qatar, Kuwait, Saudi Arabia, nor the Emirates haven't open their embracing arms:rolleyes: and pledged aid to the Syrians.... Why is that:confused:? Now mind you the question is rhetorical.

When one asked shoot all Muslims and the reply is "Yes. Shoot them ALL." I'd say is just a bit bigoted or at the very least uncalled for. Shoot the monsters. Not me.

I'm an atheist but let's just say I was a Muslim, then what? how come when your priests molest little boys on a daily basis you don't come out n apologise? Meatballs your from Jersey I assume, plenty of muslims there, why don't you ask one when you see one on the street n see what they tell you...In my opinion, they don't need to apologise for anything if they didn't do the crime, fair enough..

I did. As did my brothers. We contributed positively to society and broke 6 figures by age 30. Pretty successful by most measuring sticks. My father is in private practice and employs several nurses and secretary staff. Your policy would have prevented all that.

It's a moot point, it's not like our borders are that secure so any bad guy that wanted to get in probably could get in through Mexico or Canada fairly easily. Besides, no outcry from you for the illegal immigrant deported twice guy in San Fran who shot and killed a white American girl? No shortage of illegal immigrants hurting and harming US citizens. Where's the outcry?

We all will recognize a war when we see it, despite any talk to the contrary.
Unfortunately the line has been crossed and no amount of talk is going to fix that, so let it roll. Humans love a good war.

Start treating blacks like you all used to not too long ago in America, see how that goes..Oppression will lead to a lot more than you expect..Joey I bet your family probably owned a few slaves back in the day..And your probably ok with that as well...

Personally, I am extremely happy when I see blacks prosper because they put up with a lot of crap from the gringo folks in this country, go ahead n deny that never happened either..The only difference between blacks and muslims is well, muslims have no fear..again what happened in Paris is extremely sad but I guarantee its not the end of it n it will get worse n worse as more oppression continues..

Gee what a shock...

Paris attacks: Isis militant said to be Syrian who passed through Greece on refugee route ? live | World news | The Guardian

Too bad a lesson learned too late for Europe. Is there hope for the U.S. or will the politically correct and ACLU cry discrimination against the poor Syrian Refugees.:mad:?

Exactly, shy!

Who is "you all" are you not an American?

Trust me, the monsters are going to be hunted down and shot like the dogs they are, that is the only logical outcome.

Slave owners aka the gringos of those days aka your ancestors

Gringos....that's a racist term isn't it?
Let's see I never owned a slave, nor did any members of my family so what are you trying to say when your statement is so inclusive? WE

Wow you really are an idiot.

A gringo is traditionally a foreigner in a Spanish speaking country.

My ancestors are Irish. Immigrated here in the early 1900's.

Where do you live? Where are you from? The answers to those two questions will be very enlightening to the readers of this thread.

Slave owners covered all of Europe long before the USA. Slave owners now mostly reside in the ME.

Of course most gov works as slave owners all over the world.

The guy from Eastern Europe has spoken, lol....Do you even count in this discussion, Prague is beautiful but imagine this type of sh!t started there, all that hot Czech p@&$y would go to waste..The best prostitutes I ever hired were from the Czech republic...anyhow, yea, shoot them all, lol, please, please, please say that to a muslims face, I beg you

Lol!! Son, you have no idea what oppression is. Stop acting like a whiney child, people are dying.

By the way, blacks have been given handouts for 40 years and can go further than any white kid in america today. However, most seem to choose not to, unfortunately. They do have cool pants, some form of english, jewelry, and rims though.

How long shall the waste continue?

Yea riiiiiiight! blacks have more opportunities than whites in America today! Pppplllleeease, you are out of your mind...Blacks till this day are treated as second class citizens in America...if it wasn't for the whole terrorist issue n news, the entire focus would still be on blacks..in a way the blacks are getting a break due to all the hatred being shifted towards the muslims...

Congratulations on the most egregious example of thread creep in APC history....

When some nut job is willing to go on a suicide mission, it's pretty hard to stop them. They could walk into a gun show or a movie theater full of gun carrying patrons, flip their switch and it's game over. No gun is going to save the day when it comes to stopping these types of attacks.

Atheism is punishable by death in Qatar. Keep on defending them.

Owned slaves? Lol. My grandparents came from Italy and guess what????????

They assimilated to US culture , unlike you know who

Ironically, when attacks like these occur, you beg for men with guns to come and save you.

Really? So 100 people with guns couldn't stop it?

I don't like it anymore than you, but the best deterrent for a gun, is another gun. What's been proven is that when guns are not available to the GP today, the only one without it is the GP. Afterwards the GP is relabeled 'victim'.

Well my Italian brother, I agree with you that assimilation is important but that doesn't mean that a migrant lose his/ her culture in the process..it's what makes America a great country..Americans have a heart of gold and they are naive so they really don't comprehend the true story but just what's fed to them on news channels like FOX

The solution is simple. A live demonstration of the Tellar-Ulam design to the entire region.

Mike, you don't get killed for being an atheist in Qatar..I think my co workers and bosses know my status of being an atheist and they don't say anything. Obviously I don't go around preaching atheism in Qatar but generally speaking no one is going to touch you here over what you believe as long as you don't go out and openly preach it..Yes it's not a totally a free society like the good ole USA but really, why would you discuss this stuff in their backyard knowing they don't like the subject

How do we know you are not part of a sleeper cell? Better safe than sorry.

I'm fairly liberal, damn near hippy on some issues, save the world, peace on earth type crap, but I'm getting really perplexed, fed-up, confused, borderline angry by this…

I turn on the news (any one of them), I open my browser, I almost instantly see statements from dozens of world leaders, presidents, societal leaders, etc denouncing, calling for peace, etc…. guess what I NEVER see… muslims and/or muslim leaders doing the same. I'm sure it occurs and it just doesn't garner media attention, but it's no secret that the muslim voice denouncing these acts is a mouse compared to virtually everyone/thing else!

Speak the F*&K up muslims!

Wow, Eastern European guy, you have the nerve to accuse a fellow pilot of being in a sleeper cell because he's a muslim..That would mean that all your countrymen in the Czech Republic practice incest also right? Only cuz it's a rumor it must be true..Sorry, not a rumor but it is practiced although remotely so that makes everyone in your country guilty

There is nothing left to stop once the suicide bomber lights the fuse. So no, 100 people with guns in a crowded movie theater or similar venue wouldn't save the day nor be much of a deterrent to a suicide bomber. They are smart and stealthy and are very effective at blindsiding their targets.

We need to affect some "climate change" to the Middle East by raising the temperature to around 100,000,000 degrees C for a brief period. That will produce the desired results.

Yeah, missed your reference to the "the switch".

Better solution is take all the beautiful prostitutes aka normal women from your country the Czech republic and disperse them in the Middle East so these barbaric men can quench their thirst..That will solve all the issues:p

Good post right up until the Bold part. What story are us naive Americans missing that justifies Islamic extremists to cowardly blow themselves up. I thought it was in the name of Allah?, or do they do it so they can nail "72 virigins"? What a ****ing joke

Dick Cheney speaks. Does it ever occur to you that this could be construed as a crime against humanity? Apparently not...