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tailendcharlie 11-14-2015 10:35 AM

Guerilla War 101.....determined infiltrated foe fighting for an idealology.

None of your military/ give everyone a gun solutions will work. Last time the "terrorists" were the good guys and a million Wehrmact/SS/Gestapo/ Milice couldn't stop it; The Resistance only got bigger.

A330Pilot 11-14-2015 10:36 AM


Originally Posted by JoeyMeatballs (Post 2011161)
Good post right up until the Bold part. What story are us naive Americans missing that justifies Islamic extremists to cowardly blow themselves up. I thought it was in the name of Allah?, or do they do it so they can nail "72 virigins"? What a ****ing joke

Was speaking in general sense..not specifically about the terrorists, that's black n white..

JoeyMeatballs 11-14-2015 10:36 AM


Originally Posted by A330Pilot (Post 2011143)
Mike, you don't get killed for being an atheist in Qatar..I think my co workers and bosses know my status of being an atheist and they don't say anything. Obviously I don't go around preaching atheism in Qatar but generally speaking no one is going to touch you here over what you believe as long as you don't go out and openly preach it..Yes it's not a totally a free society like the good ole USA but really, why would you discuss this stuff in their backyard knowing they don't like the subject

But it's ok for them to come here and have one demand after he next? YGTBSM. A bit hypocritical no? There is absolutely a double standard

Packrat 11-14-2015 10:39 AM

I see the typical APC groupthink is in full flower today.

Captyeager 11-14-2015 10:57 AM

Please would all young impressionable minds look away from this brain trash.

Czech Airman 11-14-2015 10:58 AM


Originally Posted by Rainbows (Post 2011011)
These sorts of cowardly acts are going to continue. They will continue because we are comparing apples to oranges. The followers of Isis do not value human life the same way normal people do they really don't care whether they live or die, it's very hard to combat that. Sorta like stopping kamikaze pilots in WWII. The only way you will stop Isis is wholesale eradication and that starts with containment. EVERY single Muslim male under the age of 45 is suspect, they need to be locked down. Flights in an out of Syria, and other areas with large Muslim populations need to be immediately stopped. The areas that are under Isis control need to be eradicated, depopulated. The problem is, this is inhumane and wont (and probably shouldn't) be supported by the US. Without doing this, we'll continue to see these sorts of cowardly attacks.

The W79 Enhance Radiation Warhead (Neutron Bomb) would be quite effective at this while allowing the US to regain use of the military assets ISIS stole from us via Iraq.

300SMK 11-14-2015 10:58 AM


Originally Posted by A330Pilot (Post 2010882)
I'm a hard core atheist BUT I do think that the Muslims will rule the World one day and ISLAM will become the predominant religion in this world..It may even happen in our lifetime..They are a crazy group of people who fear no one but the creator..It takes a lot to overcome that mindset..

7.62 really helps.

galaxy flyer 11-14-2015 11:46 AM

Packrat,

What would call the war years of 1944-45 in both Europe and Japan? War is about killing, no other way around it and our Arabic Muslim enemies have chosen war. We need to give them all they can handle and more

GF

CODs4ever 11-14-2015 11:58 AM

ISIS and Al Qaeda hate each other. The world just needs that those two terror groups go to war against each other. Shouldn't be a problem since neither group seems to have any issue killing people of their own religion, based on what I saw in Iraq.

ShyGuy 11-14-2015 12:53 PM


Originally Posted by Czech Airman (Post 2011144)
How do we know you are not part of a sleeper cell? Better safe than sorry.

:rolleyes:

I can only assume you are in troll God mode.

ShyGuy 11-14-2015 01:00 PM


Originally Posted by JoeyMeatballs (Post 2011161)
Good post right up until the Bold part. What story are us naive Americans missing that justifies Islamic extremists to cowardly blow themselves up. I thought it was in the name of Allah?, or do they do it so they can nail "72 virigins"? What a ****ing joke

Well, it's called war. Unfortunately. When one goes and bombs a country is anyone surprised when they then come to your home and bomb/kill you?

Syria itself has lost 200,000 people dead in the past 4 years and many of them were innocents trying to live a normal life. War is ugly. The more we continue to bomb and create instability in the Middle East, the more we open and expose ourselves to attacks from these very people we are attacking.

There will be no peace in the Middle East. As long as you have idiots running around claiming land for their own religion (and I don't just mean the Palestinians) then there isn't really any hope. Separate religion from the government form is the only hope for progress and living in the 21st century.


Originally Posted by galaxy flyer (Post 2011193)
Packrat,
War is about killing, no other way around it and our Arabic Muslim enemies have chosen war. We need to give them all they can handle and more

GF

We aren't exactly innocent in this either. We've made plenty of moves in the Middle East all to support Israel and oil. Those two are huge reasons we are involved in all things ME and have gone to several Wars there since 1991. We did choose war for oil.

krudawg 11-14-2015 01:08 PM


Originally Posted by Bestglide (Post 2010934)
Yes once again those evil Christians are killing people all over the globe, wait a minute that was hundreds of years ago. Which doesn't seem to matter to the liberal ideology and their inherent hatred of anything Christian!
I guess it's ok for muzzies to throw gay people off buildings but god forbid an evil Christian refuse to bake them a cake!
What is this world coming to? We had better get our heads out of our arse if are way of life is to survive!

The muslims I'm worried about are the 95% which are peaceful. Why are they standing by doing nothing about stopping the minority of savage islamist who are killing and blowing up people. The large majority of so-called peaceful muslims should be out in the streets protesting and putting out Fatwahs on these murderous radicals. That's what makes me worry. Think about it.

ShyGuy 11-14-2015 01:46 PM


Originally Posted by krudawg (Post 2011241)
The muslims I'm worried about are the 95% which are peaceful. Why are they standing by doing nothing about stopping the minority of savage islamist who are killing and blowing up people. The large majority of so-called peaceful muslims should be out in the streets protesting and putting out Fatwahs on these murderous radicals. That's what makes me worry. Think about it.

How can I stop what they are doing? I'm not responsible for what monsters do. And nothing I say or do will stop them from doing what they are doing.

If I was in Paris, I wouldn't be going out on the street simply for my own safety. You just never know what retaliation might happen. Of course here, the ignorant here commit a mass shooting at a Sikh temple in Milwaukee because "they look Moslem."

Czech Airman 11-14-2015 01:51 PM


Originally Posted by ShyGuy (Post 2011258)
How can I stop what they are doing? I'm not responsible for what monsters do. And nothing I say or do will stop them from doing what they are doing.

If I was in Paris, I wouldn't be going out on the street simply for my own safety. You just never know what retaliation might happen. Of course here, the ignorant here commit a mass shooting at a Sikh temple in Milwaukee because "they look Moslem."

You can go over there and fight against them. Join the Kurds.

snackysmores 11-14-2015 01:56 PM


Originally Posted by Czech Airman (Post 2011259)
You can go over there and fight against them. Join the Kurds.

Donate your old toyota pickup (must be a truck so you can mount an AA gun in the bed.)

putzin 11-14-2015 01:57 PM


Originally Posted by ShyGuy (Post 2011230)
Well, it's called war. Unfortunately. When one goes and bombs a country is anyone surprised when they then come to your home and bomb/kill you?

Syria itself has lost 200,000 people dead in the past 4 years and many of them were innocents trying to live a normal life. War is ugly. The more we continue to bomb and create instability in the Middle East, the more we open and expose ourselves to attacks from these very people we are attacking.

There will be no peace in the Middle East. As long as you have idiots running around claiming land for their own religion (and I don't just mean the Palestinians) then there isn't really any hope. Separate religion from the government form is the only hope for progress and living in the 21st century.



We aren't exactly innocent in this either. We've made plenty of moves in the Middle East all to support Israel and oil. Those two are huge reasons we are involved in all things ME and have gone to several Wars there since 1991. We did choose war for oil.


We never do anything unless it benefits us! For instance there's a reason slick willy did nothing about the death of a million Rwandans. It's sad really.

Israel's our pit bull in the yard if you will, of course they're chosen. The rest of the ME is too hard to control and have little value for life. Could you imagine? It would be like herding cats.

swamp 11-14-2015 01:57 PM

Lets resurrect this idea from the early 1900s. Seemed to work.

HOW TO STOP ISLAMIC TERRORISTS...... it worked once in our History...

Once in U.S. history an episode of Islamic terrorism was very quickly stopped. It happened in the Philippines about 1911, when Gen. John J. Pershing was in command of the garrison. There had been numerous Islamic terrorist attacks, so "Black Jack" told his boys to catch the perps and teach them a lesson.

Forced to dig their own graves, the terrorists were all tied to posts, execution style. The U.S. soldiers then brought in pigs and slaughtered them, rubbing their bullets in the blood and fat. Thus, the terrorists were terrorized; they saw that they would be contaminated with hogs' blood. This would mean that they could not enter Heaven, even if they died as terrorist martyrs.

All but one was shot, their bodies dumped into the grave, and the hog guts dumped atop the bodies. The lone survivor was allowed to escape back to the terrorist camp and tell his brethren what happened to the others. This brought a stop to terrorism in the Philippines for the next 50 years.

Pointing a gun into the face of Islamic terrorists won't make them flinch.

They welcome the chance to die for Allah. Like Gen. Pershing, we must show them that they won't get to Muslim heaven (which they believe has an endless supply of virgins) but instead will die with the hated pigs of the devil.

Czech Airman 11-14-2015 02:04 PM


Originally Posted by snackysmores (Post 2011263)
Donate your old toyota pickup (must be a truck so you can mount an AA gun in the bed.)

http://media.vocativ.com/photos/2013/06/toyota-body.jpg

Czech Airman 11-14-2015 02:09 PM


Originally Posted by swamp (Post 2011266)
Lets resurrect this idea from the early 1900s. Seemed to work.

HOW TO STOP ISLAMIC TERRORISTS...... it worked once in our History...

Once in U.S. history an episode of Islamic terrorism was very quickly stopped. It happened in the Philippines about 1911, when Gen. John J. Pershing was in command of the garrison. There had been numerous Islamic terrorist attacks, so "Black Jack" told his boys to catch the perps and teach them a lesson.

Forced to dig their own graves, the terrorists were all tied to posts, execution style. The U.S. soldiers then brought in pigs and slaughtered them, rubbing their bullets in the blood and fat. Thus, the terrorists were terrorized; they saw that they would be contaminated with hogs' blood. This would mean that they could not enter Heaven, even if they died as terrorist martyrs.

All but one was shot, their bodies dumped into the grave, and the hog guts dumped atop the bodies. The lone survivor was allowed to escape back to the terrorist camp and tell his brethren what happened to the others. This brought a stop to terrorism in the Philippines for the next 50 years.

Pointing a gun into the face of Islamic terrorists won't make them flinch.

They welcome the chance to die for Allah. Like Gen. Pershing, we must show them that they won't get to Muslim heaven (which they believe has an endless supply of virgins) but instead will die with the hated pigs of the devil.

+1!


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galaxy flyer 11-14-2015 02:11 PM

ShyGuy,

You keep believing that nonsense about "war for oil". If we did, why are buying from around the world, the smallest percentage from the ME? BTW, with fracked oil, we're very nearly producing all our consumption. If we went to war for oil, we should have put a U.S. flag on the Iraqi oilfields, declared them a U.S. possession. We didn't.

GF

ShyGuy 11-14-2015 02:20 PM


Originally Posted by swamp (Post 2011266)
Lets resurrect this idea from the early 1900s. Seemed to work.

HOW TO STOP ISLAMIC TERRORISTS...... it worked once in our History...

Once in U.S. history an episode of Islamic terrorism was very quickly stopped. It happened in the Philippines about 1911, when Gen. John J. Pershing was in command of the garrison. There had been numerous Islamic terrorist attacks, so "Black Jack" told his boys to catch the perps and teach them a lesson.

Forced to dig their own graves, the terrorists were all tied to posts, execution style. The U.S. soldiers then brought in pigs and slaughtered them, rubbing their bullets in the blood and fat. Thus, the terrorists were terrorized; they saw that they would be contaminated with hogs' blood. This would mean that they could not enter Heaven, even if they died as terrorist martyrs.

All but one was shot, their bodies dumped into the grave, and the hog guts dumped atop the bodies. The lone survivor was allowed to escape back to the terrorist camp and tell his brethren what happened to the others. This brought a stop to terrorism in the Philippines for the next 50 years.

Pointing a gun into the face of Islamic terrorists won't make them flinch.

They welcome the chance to die for Allah. Like Gen. Pershing, we must show them that they won't get to Muslim heaven (which they believe has an endless supply of virgins) but instead will die with the hated pigs of the devil.

This sounds like one of those stories that would ring false on snoopes. No one single fighter is ever going to convince a 100,000+ force of horrors committed at a certain place and so get all 100,000+ to stop. And factually speaking I'm not aware of anything that says that if one has pigs blood on them they will automatically go to hell.

A330Pilot 11-14-2015 02:23 PM


Originally Posted by galaxy flyer (Post 2011278)
ShyGuy,

You keep believing that nonsense about "war for oil". If we did, why are buying from around the world, the smallest percentage from the ME? BTW, with fracked oil, we're very nearly producing all our consumption. If we went to war for oil, we should have put a U.S. flag on the Iraqi oilfields, declared them a U.S. possession. We didn't.

GF

Oh we don't need Middle East oil, that just made me choke on my coffee..You know at the high level, whether U know it or not, the Middle East countries who belong to the GCC gulf countries council have their nuts rubbed by American officials every single day, you just don't see it because your or we are at the peasant level..If the GCC cut off selling their oil to the U.S, we would be in deep crap over night...Actually, that would be a very smart move on their part since they really don't need us..We need them..This my friend is a FACT..And why is this all happening? because of a fake country called ISRAEL..Arabs love Americans but because of ISRAEL, they hate us...

ShyGuy 11-14-2015 02:26 PM


Originally Posted by galaxy flyer (Post 2011278)
ShyGuy,

You keep believing that nonsense about "war for oil". If we did, why are buying from around the world, the smallest percentage from the ME? BTW, with fracked oil, we're very nearly producing all our consumption. If we went to war for oil, we should have put a U.S. flag on the Iraqi oilfields, declared them a U.S. possession. We didn't.

GF

Fracking has been in a world of hurt since oil dropped below ~65-70/barrel. We have changed oil procurement in todays world, but we are still dependent on ME oil and it still doesn't change the fact that oil is a huge natural resource found in abundance in the ME for which we have started conflicts over. In Iraq war we guarded oil sites and not schools or power stations. We knew what was important. And no, you can't just go into a foreign country and put up flags and claim it as yours. Unless you're Russia.

15 hijackers on 9/11 were Saudis but we didn't touch Saudi Arabia. It is a US-friendly country and we own the Saudi royal family like our puppets. An oil friendly nation that allows an airbases and military reciprocation makes us best friends with one of the world's largest violator of human rights. A backward ass country where women can't drive, forced to walk behind men, and can't own a business. They behead at a rate that would make ISIS look like childs play. And they do it publicly, too. None of those atrocities are ever shown here. Their version of Sharia law is just as strict as what ISIS wants. Yet here we are, a strong ally and supporter of Saudi Arabia. Our policies, wars, and everything Middle East is summed up by two words: Israel and oil.

putzin 11-14-2015 02:28 PM


Originally Posted by A330Pilot (Post 2011275)
Normally I wouldn't wish this on anyone but this eastern euro tr@sh monkey SHOULD have been a Paris victim! I would love to meet you in real life, keep picking on a fellow pilot who just happens to be a Muslim..Your turn will come buddy, just keep making these remarks in public also when u walk around...;)

Hmmm, you like the sun, sand, no value for life, treat women like *****s... Fit right in, don't ya? It's good you're there, you belong.

Go home, boy.

LivnDaDrm 11-14-2015 02:31 PM


Originally Posted by Klsytakesit (Post 2010892)
Less time texting and more time at the range will be the difference that turns the tide on domestic and international thugs(muslims)....Your choice....Be an MSNBC/CNN coward or aquire the tools and skills that will allow you to double tap these cowardly punks at 1000 yards when they show up where you live....and show up they will

After a nice double tap I make sure the kill is good with a quick dousing of deodorant and some pork. If the military would just start using the same concept by developing a Right Guard / Pork Chop WMD.

ShyGuy 11-14-2015 02:33 PM

If you hate ISIS, you cannot possibly be okay with Saudi Arabia. ISIS wants a system that emulates what Saudi Arabia has: a Sunni country, the harshest known form of Sharia law on earth, public beheadings for those found "guilty" (usually by one corrupt judge) and mass executions. No rapist can be convicted of rape just because of a woman's word. There needs to be 4 male witnesses. That's Sharia law for you. And Saudi loves them some Sharia. Their regular police force and then a separate religious police force that has equal power. It's amazing the sheer amounts of human rights violations Saudi commits but we America have shown we can turn a blind eye to just about anything as long as our interests are taken care of.

A330Pilot 11-14-2015 02:35 PM


Originally Posted by ShyGuy (Post 2011292)
Fracking has been in a world of hurt since oil dropped below ~65-70/barrel. We have changed oil procurement in todays world, but we are still dependent on ME oil and it still doesn't change the fact that oil is a huge natural resource found in abundance in the ME for which we have started conflicts over. In Iraq war we guarded oil sites and not schools or power stations. We knew what was important. And no, you can't just go into a foreign country and put up flags and claim it as yours. Unless you're Russia.

15 hijackers on 9/11 were Saudis but we didn't touch Saudi Arabia. It is a US-friendly country and we own the Saudi royal family like our puppets. An oil friendly nation that allows an airbases and military reciprocation makes us best friends with one of the world's largest violator of human rights. A backward ass country where women can't drive, forced to walk behind men, and can't own a business. They behead at a rate that would make ISIS look like childs play. And they do it publicly, too. None of those atrocities are ever shown here. Their version of Sharia law is just as strict as what ISIS wants. Yet here we are, a strong ally and supporter of Saudi Arabia. Our policies, wars, and everything Middle East is summed up by two words: Israel and oil.


Saudi Royal family are true scumb@gs, because of them, the muslim world is a mess...Saudia is not afraid of anyone either because they know they have nuclear capabilities via Pakistan.. so in the end I blame the saudi royal family and Israel for all the issues we see on TV everyday..Saudis could have helped the Syrians by taking them in but they didn't, I wonder why and on who's orders...I guarantee you that Germany will never have a terrorist attack because the world saw their kindness in taking in refugees..99.999 percent of the muslim world is wonderful and kind so u cannot start treating them like you treated the blacks in the past..If that happens its game over, I can already see it, I'm clairvoyant lol

jamesrhatcher 11-14-2015 02:36 PM


Originally Posted by A330Pilot (Post 2011275)
Normally I wouldn't wish this on anyone but this eastern euro tr@sh monkey SHOULD have been a Paris victim! I would love to meet you in real life, keep picking on a fellow pilot who just happens to be a Muslim..Your turn will come buddy, just keep making these remarks in public also when u walk around...;)

So the "voice of morality" speaks!? And this from one who admitted to seeking and obtaining the services of prostitutes earlier in this thread? I assume you hold an ATP. If you do, so much for the "of good moral character" requirement.

A330Pilot 11-14-2015 02:36 PM


Originally Posted by putzin (Post 2011294)
Hmmm, you like the sun, sand, no value for life, treat women like *****s... Fit right in, don't ya? It's good you're there, you belong.

Go home, boy.


Oh I love Qatar, yes I fit in just perfectly..Try getting laid, it helps with the high blood pressure:p

A330Pilot 11-14-2015 02:38 PM


Originally Posted by jamesrhatcher (Post 2011299)
So the "voice of morality" speaks!? And this from one who admitted to seeking and obtaining the services of prostitutes earlier in this thread? I assume you hold an ATP. If you do, so much for the "of good moral character" requirement.


What's wrong with prostitutes? They are human..As far as that ATP morals crap, that's for fools like you

jamesrhatcher 11-14-2015 02:42 PM


Originally Posted by A330Pilot (Post 2011302)
What's wrong with prostitutes? They are human..As far as that ATP morals crap, that's for fools like you

Hence what's wrong with our industry and country today for that matter.

A330Pilot 11-14-2015 02:46 PM


Originally Posted by jamesrhatcher (Post 2011304)
Hence what's wrong with our industry and country today for that matter.

I learned a lot from the best Charlie Sheen, we are actually friends in real life..have some fun buddy, you will be dead in 50 years anyways

Oh and I met him courtesy of Qatar Airways,

Monkeyfly 11-14-2015 02:52 PM

Obama tu quoque talking points?
 

Originally Posted by Name User (Post 2010917)
Yeah I know. It's not like Catholics ever did any of that stuff. Oh wait.

Some selected events:

  • 17th century: Catholics sack the city of Magdeburg/Germany: roughly 30,000 Protestants were slain. "In a single church fifty women were found beheaded," reported poet Friedrich Schiller, "and infants still sucking the breasts of their lifeless mothers.
  • "What happened to his people was described by an eyewitness:
    "The Spaniards found pleasure in inventing all kinds of odd cruelties ... They built a long gibbet, long enough for the toes to touch the ground to prevent strangling, and hanged thirteen [natives] at a time in honor of Christ Our Saviour and the twelve Apostles... then, straw was wrapped around their torn bodies and they were burned alive."
  • Italy helped establish, during WWII, death camps in Croatia killing tens of thousands of Jews and native Serbs.
It's not limited to these people. I'm not a sympathizer but to think "we" as in the Christian/Catholic population didn't commit the same crimes is just sticking your head in the sand.

When anyone makes these Christian/Muslim comparisons please remember these points:

Muslims acting in this manner are following the commands of the Quran and the example of Muhammad.

Christians acting in this manner are acting in complete opposition of the Biblical commands and example of Christ.

Can you accurately judge a religion by its abuse?

Islam: The Politically Incorrect Truth

Someone please post the comparable Christian website.;)

jamesrhatcher 11-14-2015 02:54 PM


Originally Posted by A330Pilot (Post 2011305)
I learned a lot from the best Charlie Sheen, we are actually friends in real life..have some fun buddy, you will be dead in 50 years anyways

Oh and I met him courtesy of Qatar Airways,

I may not be quite dead in 50 years, but will most likely be dead within 60-65 years. The point is I know where I'll spent eternity! Do you? And don't worry, I'm having fun. Lots of fun in fact.
:)

jungle 11-14-2015 03:02 PM


Originally Posted by A330Pilot (Post 2011305)
I learned a lot from the best Charlie Sheen, we are actually friends in real life..have some fun buddy, you will be dead in 50 years anyways

Oh and I met him courtesy of Qatar Airways,


OK, now we have a great role model. Winning!

My idea of fun may differ from yours, and it is going to hurt.

cencal83406 11-14-2015 03:23 PM

Wang measuring our religions today? Newsflash: religion is a crutch for the weak minded and that applies equally to Christians.

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jamesrhatcher 11-14-2015 03:26 PM


Originally Posted by cencal83406 (Post 2011321)
Wang measuring our religions today? Newsflash: religion is a crutch for the weak minded and that applies equally to Christians.

Sounds like a personal opinion to me.

jungle 11-14-2015 03:32 PM

Sorry, but mass murder has nothing to do with religion or politics, it is just criminal.

captjns 11-14-2015 03:45 PM


Originally Posted by A330Pilot (Post 2011291)
This my friend is a FACT..And why is this all happening? because of a fake country called ISRAEL..Arabs love Americans but because of ISRAEL, they hate us...

And there you have it folks... The voice of unreason. An alleged friend of Charlie Sheen, another upstanding citizen of high moral standards. An adjective some sort to mind...."TROLL" UFR:mad:


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