Getting a job in a Major after an Incident
#31
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Doesn't Qtar trash approach lights and tail strike every other month or so?
#32
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Position: Downwind, headed straight for the rocks, shanghaied aboard the ship of fools.
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Honestly brother, if you really want to fly then just keep on applying and going for it. There's no such thing as a perfect pilot or a perfect human. Personally, I'd be me more apt to hire someone like you. You would genuinely appreciate the opportunity and most likely have some refreshing humility. You're attitude towards what happened is going to determine most likely how far you go in aviation. And there's no limit with the right one. Good luck to you!
#33
The two guys I met with big incidents had great interview stories.
One was deemed an accident with no violation. Guy was hijacked on one of those "learn to fly" demo flights; could have been a Miami Vice episode, although I believe the setting was Alabama. Bad guy with gun made him land on dirt to pick up the goods. Short final, apparent gaggle of other bad guys waiting. Hijacker had dismissed the need for a seatbelt early in the flight to pull gun from pants. Pilot purposefully planted the plane (172 if I recall) hard enough to bounce airborne and cause the hijacker to careen like a ping pong ball around the cockpit and ultimately induced a ground loop, wing tip drag and kicked up a cloud to challenge Hollywood effects. The plane and hijacker were significantly damaged. Pilot ran for his life and escaped.
The other was a violation with revocation of a PPL. Maybe accident too, but if so, it was a minor detail. Given the FBI, PG&E and every household without power around the California community were all coming down on him at the same time, along with the standard FAA "heat!" At age 17 he was low flying in grandad's 150 at night and hit a high tension line. The really big kind. After realizing he was still flying (with no windshield) and alive but uncertain *** had occurred, he realized it was pretty dark in places it should not have been. Fortunately the lights were on at the airport and he succeeded at hiding the airplane in a hangar. It was a community mystery for a while, but it all came out when he sought repairs. When it was obvious he was a dumbass kid and lucky to be alive, PG&E absorbed the damage to their infrastructure and the FBI disengaged. The FAA was not so charitable. No more PPL. He had to start over. Grandpa has none to pleased either. But the plane was fixed and the kid redeemed himself.
I gave the long-winded renditions in order to convey the colorful nature of the situations. With a positive attitude, openess and willingness to talk about their adventures, each pilot had great interviews and multiple job offers. From night freight to legacies, they spun their tales to the engagement and amusement of many interviewers.
Attitude and contrition play a key role I digging out of bad dings on your record. But there's hope. Best of luck.
One was deemed an accident with no violation. Guy was hijacked on one of those "learn to fly" demo flights; could have been a Miami Vice episode, although I believe the setting was Alabama. Bad guy with gun made him land on dirt to pick up the goods. Short final, apparent gaggle of other bad guys waiting. Hijacker had dismissed the need for a seatbelt early in the flight to pull gun from pants. Pilot purposefully planted the plane (172 if I recall) hard enough to bounce airborne and cause the hijacker to careen like a ping pong ball around the cockpit and ultimately induced a ground loop, wing tip drag and kicked up a cloud to challenge Hollywood effects. The plane and hijacker were significantly damaged. Pilot ran for his life and escaped.
The other was a violation with revocation of a PPL. Maybe accident too, but if so, it was a minor detail. Given the FBI, PG&E and every household without power around the California community were all coming down on him at the same time, along with the standard FAA "heat!" At age 17 he was low flying in grandad's 150 at night and hit a high tension line. The really big kind. After realizing he was still flying (with no windshield) and alive but uncertain *** had occurred, he realized it was pretty dark in places it should not have been. Fortunately the lights were on at the airport and he succeeded at hiding the airplane in a hangar. It was a community mystery for a while, but it all came out when he sought repairs. When it was obvious he was a dumbass kid and lucky to be alive, PG&E absorbed the damage to their infrastructure and the FBI disengaged. The FAA was not so charitable. No more PPL. He had to start over. Grandpa has none to pleased either. But the plane was fixed and the kid redeemed himself.
I gave the long-winded renditions in order to convey the colorful nature of the situations. With a positive attitude, openess and willingness to talk about their adventures, each pilot had great interviews and multiple job offers. From night freight to legacies, they spun their tales to the engagement and amusement of many interviewers.
Attitude and contrition play a key role I digging out of bad dings on your record. But there's hope. Best of luck.
#34
So, what major airline and what country are you asking about? Most, if not all of the answers so far work great if you're pursuing a career in the USA, not so much in the Middle East.
#35
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Seriously, though, it seems like the best bet is to try to get hired on with someone, anyone, right now. Get as far past this as possible. It seems like it will just get more difficult to get a job if you have this, and a huge gap in employment. But it sounds like there is hope, it will just take time and eventually your good record will speak for itself.
#37
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I guess it sounds irrelevant now, but I have have a letter of warning that I got 8 years ago, and it's now off my record. Am I still required to disclose it? I just don't want to check more boxes and limit my chances with the majors
#38
Fail to disclose and they find out, termination is possible. Especially if the application asks for all enforcement/investigations by the FAA. Nothing is ever "off the record".
#39
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Buddy crashed a 172. Hit some power lines. Completely his fault. Off the street hired by United. I had a DWI. Got CJOs from a couple of majors. Own it and show them you're a good guy. I'm very thankful for the opportunities I have. You will be as well soon.
#40
On a similar note...I have a friend who is trying to get on with any major, he has had 2 major violations, his father is doing 20 to life in Attica, his sister runs a "house of ill repute" near Galveston but his big problem is whether or not to admit he has a cousin working for AAL...any advice?
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