Originally Posted by gringo (Post 2078599)

Funny thing indeed. Also funny how you immediately jump on the defensive when I'm simply stating the facts. No blame was being assigned, like I said before, it is what it is.

And what it is is that American has largely decided to ignore the immense pool of highly qualified candidates out there and focus instead on a different pool of candidates entirely. And while I'm sure that 2000 hours of flying CAP missions over Durka-Durkistan directly relates to skills and abilities in the 121 world, I'm equally certain that 5000, 7500 or 10,000 hours of flying an Airbus or Boieng incident free into LGA or ORD would also translate well into a well-rounded candidate.

And that's perfectly fine. Again. It is what it is, and nobody here is angry or bitter or seeking blame for percieved shortcomings. Everyone knows you zoomies are the best of the best of the best of the best (of the best), and you said it yourself; these large corporations, they certainly know how to hire the best (of the best) employees.

The OP asked a question. I provided an answer. You took offense to it. And you still didn't answer my question.

Originally Posted by Julio (Post 2078645)

Let's not turn this into a Mil/CIV ****ing match. We're better than that and all professionals.

Originally Posted by fishforfun (Post 2078541)

These are some of the largest corporations in the world, are you saying they don't know how to hire the best employees?

Originally Posted by Julio (Post 2078645)

And much more importantly, remember you make your own luck.

Originally Posted by gringo (Post 2078599)

I'm sure that 2000 hours of flying CAP missions over Durka-Turkistan directly relates to skills and abilities in the 121 world, I'm equally certain that 5000, 7500 or 10,000 hours of flying an Airbus or Boieng incident free into LGA or ORD would also translate well into a well-rounded candidate.

Originally Posted by gringo (Post 2078430)

At the most basic, technical level, yes you're correct. Anyone NOT a flow is "technically" OTS. However, that's not at all how the term is used or understood.

Nobody said military are guaranteed a job, but the indisputable fact remains that they DO get invited to interview far faster than a regular non-mil candidate, and they DO get preferential treatment during the entire process over a regular civilian.

Just read the "Who's Been Hired" thread. Orleans any of the countless Facebook groups. Countless mil pilots getting a shot at the majors with only a few thousand hours, while many more equally qualified, if not more so, regular civilian pilots get ignored. Thousands of hours of PIC, widebody, passenger ops, etc etc totally ignored while any F16 pilot with low 4 digit flight time gets an interview.

This gist of this thread is who's getting hired at what legacy and who's not in a "special preferences" group.

American has made it very difficult for non-Mil, non-flow pilots to get on board. Not impossible, but incredibly unlikely.

Delta, a little bit easier, but still very difficult to get that phone call.

But for guys like me, veteran (not a pilot) brought up through the civilian ranks working through various regionals, ACMI trash haulers, LCC's and ULCC's, the ONLY Legacy that's giving us "off the street" guys a fair shot seems to be United.

Originally Posted by VegassBus (Post 2078767)

Good god, who cares. If you can fly an F-16 you can certainly fly an Airbus or Boeing. An airplane is an airplane and Deltas airplanes are no harder to fly than Uniteds, JetBlues etc.

Originally Posted by Klondike Bear (Post 2078790)

You do know Delta flies the Maddog right?

Originally Posted by Klondike Bear (Post 2078790)

You do know Delta flies the Maddog right?