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VegassBus 03-01-2016 11:15 AM


Originally Posted by leftcoast (Post 2079531)
Just curious, can anyone comment, factually, on what the Hogan is screening for? I know a couple of people who did not pass the Hogan….both very normal military pilots with not much in common between them.

IOW, what are we (UAL) looking for?

I believe they took a bunch of UAL & CAL pilots and had them do it first to get a "baseline" for lack of a Better term.

I think they are looking for honesty. They ask the same questions 10 different ways so you are screwed if you try try and "beat it" or answer what you think they want?

Andy 03-01-2016 11:32 AM

Well, you kids just keep plodding along blaming the reason on why you didn't get hired at a major is because you don't have military flying time on your resume.

I also find it precious that some think that they can walk in off the street and be sent to pilot training without serving a day in a nonflying Guard/Reserve job. Sure, there are some units that fill their pilot training allocation that way but most Guard/Reserve pilot training slots are filled by people who are already in the unit in a nonflying capacity. It's called networking.

PotatoChip 03-01-2016 12:02 PM


Originally Posted by Andy (Post 2079549)
Well, you kids just keep plodding along blaming the reason on why you didn't get hired at a major is because you don't have military flying time on your resume.

I also find it precious that some think that they can walk in off the street and be sent to pilot training without serving a day in a nonflying Guard/Reserve job. Sure, there are some units that fill their pilot training allocation that way but most Guard/Reserve pilot training slots are filled by people who are already in the unit in a nonflying capacity. It's called networking.


I know of three reserve pilots off the top of my head who went to UPT off the street. I'm aware the ANG is different.

I never blamed a lack military time for anything. Nor did I ever state whether or not I have any non-flying military time.

gringo 03-01-2016 12:14 PM


Originally Posted by Andy (Post 2079549)
Well, you kids just keep plodding along blaming the reason on why you didn't get hired at a major is because you don't have military flying time on your resume.

I also find it precious that some think that they can walk in off the street and be sent to pilot training without serving a day in a nonflying Guard/Reserve job. Sure, there are some units that fill their pilot training allocation that way but most Guard/Reserve pilot training slots are filled by people who are already in the unit in a nonflying capacity. It's called networking.

Dude, seriously. You're embarrassing yourself. Quit while you're still behind, because you're only digging yourself a deeper hole each time you try to dig yourself out of your ridiculous position.

Military flight time is the de facto differentiator between a potential candidate getting a call or sitting on the sidelines waiting for a call.

There are plenty of "non-flying" veterans out there with years of service who's phones aren't ringing, while military pilots are getting multiple CJO's left and right and are stuck trying to decide whether they want to go to Delta, FedEx or American.

Your assertation that military experience in general, and not military flight experience specifically, is the deciding factor, is as laughable as your attempt to prove "slots" doesn't really mean what we all know it to mean.

BUSTED 03-01-2016 01:39 PM


Originally Posted by John Carr (Post 2079515)
The rest of you b1tching about a guard "slot", YOU'RE ON GUARD!!!!!!!!!!


Hilarious!... I'm adopting this as my standard "thread derail" response.


Cheers,
BUSTED

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A320ULCC 03-01-2016 02:32 PM


Originally Posted by Andy (Post 2079549)
Well, you kids just keep plodding along blaming the reason on why you didn't get hired at a major is because you don't have military flying time on your resume.

I also find it precious that some think that they can walk in off the street and be sent to pilot training without serving a day in a nonflying Guard/Reserve job. Sure, there are some units that fill their pilot training allocation that way but most Guard/Reserve pilot training slots are filled by people who are already in the unit in a nonflying capacity. It's called networking.

I also know of two people that were in a guard unit that were sent to pilot training and washed out. No aviation background, just were in the guard and networked there way into something they were not qualified to do. Those slots were wasted on these two networking individuals and it robbed two civilian pilots of the chance of filling those slots.

Julio 03-01-2016 02:56 PM

First day of INDOC down at AA. As a mil guy I was truly humbled to see how long the ENVOY flow guys/gals have been waiting for this opportunity. Congrats to all of them. Well deserved and I'm glad to have the opportunity to learn from them and be on their team.

galaxy flyer 03-01-2016 03:42 PM

I sent probably 10 OTS guys to UPT in the Reserves about a similar number from in-unit. I was a SQ/DO who wanted pilots not wash-outs.

GF

Sliceback 03-01-2016 10:25 PM

My former unit didn't require that you 'knew' someone. In the last 30+ years I can think of one guy who was enlisted in the unit (now an O-6 so I guess he was deserving). One guy might have know someone(it's been so long I forget). The rest have been OTS that didn't know anyone. The unit ran a blind/neutral interview board and selected the best candidate. Yes, even out of state candidates.

No one was born 32 yrs old. Except for medical issues everyone had the same opportunities.

Swedish Blender 03-02-2016 02:16 AM


Originally Posted by Andy (Post 2079549)
I also find it precious that some think that they can walk in off the street and be sent to pilot training without serving a day in a nonflying Guard/Reserve job. Sure, there are some units that fill their pilot training allocation that way but most Guard/Reserve pilot training slots are filled by people who are already in the unit in a nonflying capacity. It's called networking.

Just a little out of touch. You can go to UPT now without a sponsor unit.
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