Is this what it's come to?
04-11-2016 | 08:19 AM
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04-11-2016 | 08:27 AM
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FWIW, I was hired at a year ago in my mid twenties with 1600TT and 50.0 multi. Went through training just fine and adapted to line flying relatively quickly as well. I think the emphasis on multi time is a bit exaggerated. Maybe more multi time would have given me more SA but I don't think multi piston to multi turbine skills transfer over that much.
Waste not...
04-11-2016 | 11:29 AM
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From: 767 Captain
Here's funny story for you. When I checked out as a 727 F/O, my sim partner, also checking out as a 727 F/O, was also a guard F15 pilot. On our first take off, I'm flying, the IP gives me an engine fire just past V1.
As I'm rotating, my sim partner is doing the memory items for the engine fire, to include pulling the fire handle and rotating to fire the bottle, as we are just lifting off the ground! To say he had 'fast hands' was an understatement. Well I was flailing wildly, with the sudden lost thrust, so at about 200' the IP hits the freeze button. He then looks to my sim partner and says, "What are you doing?".
"I'm doing the Engine Fire Boldface!".
IP says, "In an F15, maybe you do it that fast, but here, we wait until we have the airplane under control. Tim probably would have liked to have had that thrust right now, at least until we got to 1000'. These engines are on a pylon, you aren't sitting on top of them like in an F15."
So there was some 're-education' required in the transition to airline ops, even for a 'multi engine' F15 pilot with a few thousand hours of 'Multi Time'.
As I'm rotating, my sim partner is doing the memory items for the engine fire, to include pulling the fire handle and rotating to fire the bottle, as we are just lifting off the ground! To say he had 'fast hands' was an understatement. Well I was flailing wildly, with the sudden lost thrust, so at about 200' the IP hits the freeze button. He then looks to my sim partner and says, "What are you doing?".
"I'm doing the Engine Fire Boldface!".
IP says, "In an F15, maybe you do it that fast, but here, we wait until we have the airplane under control. Tim probably would have liked to have had that thrust right now, at least until we got to 1000'. These engines are on a pylon, you aren't sitting on top of them like in an F15."
So there was some 're-education' required in the transition to airline ops, even for a 'multi engine' F15 pilot with a few thousand hours of 'Multi Time'.
The gentleman in your story must not have been a "pure-bred" F-15 pilot (i.e. flew something else at some point).
The F-15C never had "Boldface" or memory items and unless there have been some radical changes in the last 7 years, it still doesn't.
For the first 30 years or so the F-15 was operational, the checklist for engine failure on takeoff read (WT F is a V1-cut?
)1. Throttle(s) - as required.
2. Climb to a safe altitude and investigate.
Last edited by Adlerdriver; 04-11-2016 at 12:06 PM.
