Originally Posted by CBreezy (Post 2112510)

I'm really disappointed in everyone here. There are BILLIONS of Muslims around the world and yet less than 1% of 1% are killing people in the name of their religion. Yet, here we are, demanding we bomb them, ban them, take away their language, take away their religious garmets because it looks and sounds unsafe. Are any of you listening to yourselves?

One person said killing all Muslims is like killing spiders. More people are killed by dogs every year and yet I don't hear you advocating for murdering Fido because he MIGHT kill you.

But yes, we should definitely continue to alienate Muslims because that doesn't fall directly in line with ISIS recruiting. And speaking of recruiting, they are recruiting Christians as long as they "convert.".

Originally Posted by FirstClass (Post 2112530)

You don't see Muslims denouncing the violence. In fact quite the contrary, they cheer sometimes.

Originally Posted by CBreezy (Post 2112510)

I'm really disappointed in everyone here. There are BILLIONS of Muslims around the world and yet less than 1% of 1% are killing people in the name of their religion. Yet, here we are, demanding we bomb them, ban them, take away their language, take away their religious garmets because it looks and sounds unsafe. Are any of you listening to yourselves?

One person said killing all Muslims is like killing spiders. More people are killed by dogs every year and yet I don't hear you advocating for murdering Fido because he MIGHT kill you.

But yes, we should definitely continue to alienate Muslims because that doesn't fall directly in line with ISIS recruiting. And speaking of recruiting, they are recruiting Christians as long as they "convert.".

Originally Posted by FirstClass (Post 2112530)

You don't see Muslims denouncing the violence. In fact quite the contrary, they cheer sometimes.

Originally Posted by Gunga Din (Post 2112545)

You're misinformed.
80% of Muslims in Egypt think death is appropriate for adultry.

More than 1 in 10 (14%)AMERICAN Muslims think suicide bombings are a
justified!!!

I'm not suggesting racism but if we are serious about security the first thing needed is an honest recognition of facts.

Originally Posted by CBreezy (Post 2112557)

I'd be more than happy to see where that statistic came from. According to a pew research study, a very large majority of Muslims don't condone terrorism.

Muslims and Islam: Key findings in the U.S. and around the world | Pew Research Center

And of course there is this. Definitely an interesting summary:

https://niskanencenter.org/blog/musl...any-americans/

Originally Posted by Tank21 (Post 2112534)

Where I'm currently located, 75% of the population denounces all violence in which ISIL, Al Qaeda, the Taliban, etc. inflict on the U.S.

Originally Posted by CBreezy (Post 2112553)

Except for all the money they spent doing this across the country...

http://en.abna24.com/cache/image/201...230c57111f.jpg

Originally Posted by Gunga Din (Post 2112561)

This is taken right out of the poll you linked too...

More generally, Muslims mostly say that suicide bombings and other forms of violence against civilians in the name of Islam are rarely or never justified, ...In the United States, a 2011 survey found that 86% of Muslims say that such tactics are rarely or never justified.

Hence 14% American Muslims say suicide bombings are justified.

Originally Posted by SayAlt (Post 2112574)

Btw folks....the thread title....

Funny how leftists have become habituated to calling anything people disagree with them on a "phobia" isn't it? Like they aren't afraid of anything...

Trumpphobia, Climaphobia, Christianphobia, PledgeOfAllegiancephobia, PrayerInSchoolphobia, Heterophobia, Oilphobia, etc, etc, etc.

Originally Posted by CBreezy (Post 2112567)

That isn't how statistics work. Do you know what the others answers were? How many chose not to answer?

Originally Posted by Otterbox (Post 2112081)

Sounds like his actions alarmed fellow passengers and it was investigated.

I'm going to give the kid the benefit of the doubt and say this wasn't intentionally done as a PR stunt, but I'm also going to say that waiting until you've boarded a plane to call someone in an ISIS controlled country and have a really animated conversation in Arabic is a very poor idea.

Sometimes we willingly subject ourself to increased scrutiny to use services provided by companies, this sounds like one of those cases. Everyone appears to have acted conservatively from the safety/security standpoint yet fairly and open minded by listening to his side of the story and allowing him to continue on his way, and issuing him a refund.

Originally Posted by 80knts (Post 2112579)

Just like the right and their imaginary "war on Christmas"

Originally Posted by Gunga Din (Post 2112581)

Fair enough. What could possibly be an answer you'd be okay with?
Rare/Never-86%
Sometimes justified-1%
Always justified- 1%
No Answer- 12%.
Is that better? Great. 2.75 Million and only 55,000 approve of suicide bombings. I will sleep better now.

Originally Posted by SayAlt (Post 2112586)

....when you start showing tolerance and respect for the native religion of America, .

Originally Posted by 80knts (Post 2112588)

A full three-quarters (75%) of white non-evangelical Protestants outnumber the 22% of their brethren in saying CIA treatment was justified. White Catholics believe the treatment was justified by a 66-23% margin.

Hmmm it seems "Christians" are quite okay with torture. Maybe we should just ask who Jesus would torture?

Originally Posted by SayAlt (Post 2112586)

I'm glad you brought that up, 80.

Funny how leftists are all about organizing and marshaling resources to stop and prevent Christian prayer, displays, etc...protesting, demonstrating, launching lawsuit after lawsuit...

...and they go out of their way to insult Christians. (like you do, 80)

Yet they demand tolerance for Muslims and are offended by anyone who doesn't show it.

The hypocrisy is breathtaking.

Originally Posted by 80knts (Post 2112588)

A full three-quarters (75%) of white non-evangelical Protestants outnumber the 22% of their brethren in saying CIA treatment was justified. White Catholics believe the treatment was justified by a 66-23% margin.

Hmmm it seems "Christians" are quite okay with torture. Maybe we should just ask who Jesus would torture?

Originally Posted by PRS Guitars (Post 2112592)

If by "torture", you mean water boarding, then this isn't even close to analogous. Sorry, but water boarding is not torture and doesn't compare to be-headings, honor killings, homicide bombers, etc.

Originally Posted by 80knts (Post 2112596)

Don't get your panties in a bunch here. Nobody is insulting Christians

Originally Posted by 80knts (Post 2112572)

The flying spaghetti monster says I need to wear a noodle strainer on my head or I'll burn in hell with the rest of the overcooked noodles.

Originally Posted by SayAlt (Post 2112601)

You, sir, are a proven liar.






Congratulations.

Originally Posted by 80knts (Post 2112602)

Can you show me where I insulted Christians please? Thanks. :)

Originally Posted by SayAlt (Post 2112586)

I'm glad you brought that up, 80.

Funny how leftists are all about organizing and marshaling resources to stop and prevent Christian prayer, displays, etc...protesting, demonstrating, launching lawsuit after lawsuit...

...and they go out of their way to insult Christians. (like you do, 80)

Yet they demand tolerance for Muslims and are offended by anyone who doesn't show it.

The hypocrisy is breathtaking.




Here's a little hint for you lefties......when you start showing tolerance and respect for the native religion of the United States of America, which the vast majority of Americans express a belief in, maybe you'll have a leg to stand on when you demand tolerance for Muslims.

Until then, the only thing to do is laugh in your face and point out how disingenuous your arguments are.

Originally Posted by iPilot6 (Post 2112322)

Newsflash: It's the same "god" as Christians believe in.

Originally Posted by iPilot6 (Post 2112322)

"Allah" is simply the word "god" in Arabic.



You've heard of languages right?

Originally Posted by Turbosina (Post 2112630)

The native religion of the United States of America? In which clause of the Constitution do you find that, my good man?

Originally Posted by SayAlt (Post 2112659)

Allow me to afford you the respect one would give to an intelligent, educated man and say that intellectual dishonesty and disingenuousness are ugly traits, sir. Even if you're simply being sarcastic.

However, if by chance you actually are uneducated on this particular topic, you would do very well to read this...as would most people who would argue that since the word "God" isn't in the US Constitution, that must mean something significant....

Where is God in the Constitution?

Originally Posted by Turbosina (Post 2112662)

I do have a passing acquaintance with the topic. I would ask you again: which clause of the Constitution specifies Christianity as our 'native religion'? And which denomination...Protestant, Baptist, Methodist, Episcopalian, Roman Catholic...? I must have missed that somewhere.

Originally Posted by Elvis90 (Post 2112671)

"The General hopes and trusts that every officer and man will endeavor to live and act as becomes a Christian soldier defending the dearest rights and liberties of his country."

General Order (9 July 1776) George Washington Papers at the Library of Congress, 1741-1799: Series 3g Varick Transcripts

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"Because we have no government, armed with power, capable of contending with human passions, unbridled by morality and religion. Avarice, ambition, revenge and licentiousness would break the strongest cords of our Constitution, as a whale goes through a net. Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other. Oaths in this country are as yet universally considered as sacred obligations. That which you have taken, and so solemnly repeated on that venerable ground, is an ample pledge of your sincerity and devotion to your country and its government."

John Adams - Letter to the Officers of the First Brigade of the Third Division of the Militia of Massachusetts, 11 October 1798, in Revolutionary Services and Civil Life of General William Hull (New York, 1848), pp 265-6.

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"The God who gave us life, gave us liberty at the same time; the hand of force may destroy, but cannot disjoin them."

Summary View of the Rights of British America (1774); The Writings of Thomas Jefferson (19 Vols., 1905) edited by Andrew A. Lipscomb and Albert Ellery Bergh, Vol. 1, p. 211.

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"We hold it for a fundamental and undeniable truth, 'that Religion or the duty which we owe to our Creator and the Manner of discharging it, can be directed only by reason and conviction, not by force or violence.' The Religion then of every man must be left to the conviction and conscience of every man; and it is the right of every man to exercise it as these may dictate."

James Madison, Memorial and Remonstrance Against Religious Assessments, 1785.

Originally Posted by Tank21 (Post 2112069)

This is becoming a new norm...