Islamaphobia
 

This is becoming a new norm...

Arabic-speaking student kicked off Southwest flight
http://www.cnn.com/2016/04/17/us/southwest-muslim-passenger-removed/index.html

Sounds like his actions alarmed fellow passengers and it was investigated.

I'm going to give the kid the benefit of the doubt and say this wasn't intentionally done as a PR stunt, but I'm also going to say that waiting until you've boarded a plane to call someone in an ISIS controlled country and have a really animated conversation in Arabic is a very poor idea.

Sometimes we willingly subject ourself to increased scrutiny to use services provided by companies, this sounds like one of those cases. Everyone appears to have acted conservatively from the safety/security standpoint yet fairly and open minded by listening to his side of the story and allowing him to continue on his way, and issuing him a refund.

He says he wants an apology.

sounds like another one sided article without all the facts.

How can he jump to the conclusion that speaking Arabic led someone to think he was Muslim? Does speak English make someone a Christian?

Honestly, I think the everyday American is afraid of what's different and considered scary and in present day, it's somebody from the Middle East speaking Arabic (Christian or Muslim, doesn't matter). I would bet that 99% of the people think Arabic and Muslim are one in the same.

I don't like either of them. I'd prefer that they just "go away" in an instant by the fusion of Lithium-6 Deuteride.

I'm islamaphobic and not scared to say so. The 9/11 attackers did share that religion and executed that act in the name of Islam, no? Those in ISIS causing havoc, destruction, rape, and torture across Syria, Iraq, and the terrorist attacks in Europe do so in the name of Islam, right?

I'm also arachnophobic. Of course I know not all spiders are bad and will cause me harm but if one is crawling on me or in my living room I'm not waiting around to see what type of spider it is. I squish first and examine later knowing I kept myself safe. Those really bad spiders give the good spiders a bad reputation. It's unfortunate but reality.

The San Bernadino shooters got away with what they did because people were too afraid of political backlash if they said anything. To hell with this kid, zero situational awareness. He may get his feelings coddled at Berekly but in the real world, where Muslims his age/gender are committing mass murder every day, he needs to wise up.

OP, you spend any time in the Middle East? You might change your tune.

Any time in the Middle East?

4 deployments to Iraq and Afghanistan and numerous amounts of time in other Middle Eastern countries.

Present day - on military leave from my airline job and writing this post from a deployed location in one of those other Middle Eastern countries where we are fighting some very bad people that you see and hear about on the news everyday.

That's why I started this thread because I'm reading about this more and more and idiots like LAXative stating that a hydrogen bomb should just be used and you stating that he needs to wise up and have some SA because he is a young Middle-Eastern man speaking Arabic on a plane is asinine.

Yes, we as a society can't be politically correct all the time but just because he said "Inshallah" during his conversation does not have anything to do with being a martyr. Inshallah is used for everything because they believe everything is God's will.

With that, I'm going to bed because it is almost 0030 and I have to fly in the morning.

He wasn't kicked off for saying Inshallah he was investigated because another passenger thought she heard the word martyr.


College Student Removed from Southwest Flight After He Speaks Arabic - Fortune

My guess he is a college being a smart a$$

Just like Ahmed and his clock. We've been told "if you see something say something". Someone did just that now people are being sued for $15 million and Ahmed and his suitcase clock got to meet the President at the Whitehouse.

Like was said - bad SA on the part of the kid on the airplane too.

That also happens to be said right before certain types of terrorists blow up bombs in public places.

We are at war.
You know this.

Since you are sitting over there right now - why don't you try going out on the town and doing something with equally bad SA in whatever country it is where you presently sit and see if you get a different reaction.

That "clock" thing is absolutely outrageous!

His parents probably set the whole stunt up for him. What happened is someone took a bedside alarm clock/radio halfway apart and splayed its wires all over a small pencil case..... Looked exactly like a freaking suitcase bomb to anyone without professional or military explosives training.

Of course, his stunt worked-he got to meet pres Islam himself-and he is going to school in the middle east for free.....

Stupid Americans.

This event was Allah's will then!
 

Yes, but next trip is my last!

Than why does he need an apology for "gods will"? :rolleyes:

Thank you for your service.

I'd rather have a normal harmless Muslim on my plane any day over a Bundy rancher type.

Not all, or even close to all Muslims are bad people. And the same with law breaking cow turds.

Sometimes, people are just bad.

"Phobia" implies an irrational fear...your fear is rational so you're not islamaphobic.

So I'm currently sitting at a gate in ORD waiting for the inbound plane. The gate agent working the flight is wearing a hijab.

Is that also "bad SA" on her part, or just yet another presumably innocent person living their life?

How many "bundy rancher" types have killed anyone?

Here here!

God Bless the USA!!!!!!!!!



(not allah)

All you phobes can calm down. Trump is going to ask CBP to perform religious screening at all entry checkpoints. He'll also pull kind of a Kristallnacht, part II (against Muslims), and deport the ones already here.

Probably both. Don't yell fire in a crowded theater, don't yell bomb on an airplane. Don't make a phone call in Arabic on a U.S. airliner. Just because it's not illegal doesn't make it smart.

As a matter of fact, I can't stand any of the people who feel that all of us need to listen to one side of their telephone conversation during boarding - take them all off regardless of language!

Pipe

Newsflash: It's the same "god" as Christians believe in. "Allah" is simply the word "god" in Arabic.

You've heard of languages right?

I can't say it is bad situational awareness or even comment on the topic on hand but a hijab doesn't look good with most required US airline uniforms. Whatever religious doctrine this gate agent follows is so strict it won't allow her to take the hijab off for 8 hours a day? If there were a god would this god really be concerned about people wearing a hijab at all times? If there were a god would this entity even comprehend the concept of a hijab? I'm all for religious freedom and all personal freedoms, walk around naked if you want, worship whatever god you want but at work you can't wear the required uniform for 8 hours? Why take a job if you can't commit to wearing the required uniform? If my religious doctrine requires that I wear a 3 foot tall cowboy hat at all times how many airlines are going to accommodate that? Are they going to be required to order airplanes with bigger cockpits to accommodate my beliefs and customs?

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/muslim-woman-kicked-off-plane-as-flight-attendant-said-she-did-not-feel-comfortable-with-the-a6986661.html

http://www.nbcphiladelphia.com/news/local/Philly-Pizza-Shop-Owner-Profiled-Southwest-Airlines-351944441.html

You are not free to move about the country.

Your "newsflash" is as credible as a Brian Williams report from the combat zone! Where did you come up with that? The Koran and the Bible read quite a bit differently! I expect leaders within both faiths would agree that Christians and Muslims worship a God as they believe their creator to be. But to say it's the same God echos a PC publicity piece from some website that would like people to believe more similarities than differences exist between the two religions. Which is way beyond reality. Start with a God who had a son (Jesus) versus one with no offspring, just for starters. Many tenets of Christianity are commonly denounced by Muslim teachings. Christians tend to spend less time debunking the beliefs of others and more time expressing God's love for all of mankind. The last thing I want to do is start a religious debate, but your statement must be called out. Christian God is not Allah by another name. Allah is the God Muslims worship with vastly different interpretations, beliefs and rituals than Christians worship their God. Any devout Muslim or Christian would acknowledge the vast differences between their religions. Your "newsflash" might play well on Twitter or a mindless TV news program, but it's not factual. Should believers and non-believers recognize and respect the rights of anyone to worship a deity as they wish? Of course. But pretending these two religions have much in common is pure baloney!

And yet they are both mythical characters billions of people live their life for. With no proof that either actually exist.

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The cure for a bad "god" this isn't more "god".

It's rational people using convincing logic. And a few marines.

But seriously. We can't fight their lunacy only to replace it with our own brand of domestic Taliban.
If they come here they obey our laws, which means I get to make fun of their "god" all day long.
But I also think as long as they are lawful people they should be left the hell alone.
When did the home of the brave become the land of the shi+ing our pants?

Islam isn't compatible with Western society. I'd prefer Muslims didn't exist at all. If they must exist I'd rather they stay isolated in the 3rd world hell holes they crawled out of.

BTW, Mohamed was a child raping pedophile. That is a fact. Mohamed married a 6 year old.

"Inshallah" is not said before a person blows himself to become a martyr.

You're thinking of the Arabic phase "Allahu Akbar" which translates to God is Greater.

Part of my job is to go out on the town and guess what; they know I'm not from here! I'm 6'2", blond hair and blue eyes and nobody is kicking me out of their business for being a white, male Christian!!

Neighbors: Vegas cop killers said they were at Bundy's ranch | MSNBC


As an American who has spent much of his life overseas, I am truly unhappy of what I hear on this forum.

Here you go:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i50SQ_ZETfA

I've always wondered. Unless you speak Arabic, how would you know that you heard Arabic on an airplane? If I speak fluent Urdu and spoke it and asked what language one thinks they just heard: Farsi, Pashtun, Arabic, or Urdu? I think most people would say Arabic because anything that sounds like dirka dirka is probably Arabic? :rolleyes: Every single article that has these kinds of stories the accusation is that it was always Arabic that was spoken. Either the US is now full of Arabic scholars, or there is a whole lot of generalizations going on.

All that said it's probably not a good idea to call an uncle in Baghdad while on an airplane in the US. For that matter it's not a good idea to call while on an airplane because no one around you wants to hear your personal conversations. Yes, the 'landing sucked and pilot bounced it,' but the person picking you up most likely doesn't really care.

Here, here

Tell us how you really feel :D

'Murica. If your last name isn't Smith, you don't shoot guns, drink budweiser, and listen to country music...you are a commie!!

This country , this nation, is for everybody, regardless of creed, or race, that was the founding fathers intent, and regardless of the haters, that is what the majority of us are going to strive for.

I guess your slanted news story didn't show that they were asked to leave because they were wack jobs.

So please tell us again how many of those Bundy people killed anyone?

All the abrahamic religions are full of crap anyway.

I don't disagree at all.

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