Islamaphobia
04-19-2016 | 07:07 AM
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Anybody heard of the ISIS video game where you defend Europe from ISIS?
04-19-2016 | 07:09 AM
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I'm neither left nor right and I think all religions are silly at best and dangerous at worst. I put Islam in the dangerous category. Id be pretty ****ed if there was forced prayer in public school whether to Jesus, Allah, or the spaghetti monster. You wanna pray go ahead but no special accommodations and no praying led by teachers or administrators. The evangelicals seem to think there is some war on Christmas or prayer in school etc but if a Muslim busted out a prayer mat they would lose their minds.
I do have some climataphobia, and very little trumpaphobia.
I do have some climataphobia, and very little trumpaphobia.
04-19-2016 | 07:28 AM
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I'm glad you brought that up, 80.
Funny how leftists are all about organizing and marshaling resources to stop and prevent Christian prayer, displays, etc...protesting, demonstrating, launching lawsuit after lawsuit...
...and they go out of their way to insult Christians. (like you do, 80)
Yet they demand tolerance for Muslims and are offended by anyone who doesn't show it.
The hypocrisy is breathtaking.
Here's a little hint for you lefties......when you start showing tolerance and respect for the native religion of the United States of America, which the vast majority of Americans express a belief in, maybe you'll have a leg to stand on when you demand tolerance for Muslims.
Until then, the only thing to do is laugh in your face and point out how disingenuous your arguments are.
Funny how leftists are all about organizing and marshaling resources to stop and prevent Christian prayer, displays, etc...protesting, demonstrating, launching lawsuit after lawsuit...
...and they go out of their way to insult Christians. (like you do, 80)
Yet they demand tolerance for Muslims and are offended by anyone who doesn't show it.
The hypocrisy is breathtaking.
Here's a little hint for you lefties......when you start showing tolerance and respect for the native religion of the United States of America, which the vast majority of Americans express a belief in, maybe you'll have a leg to stand on when you demand tolerance for Muslims.
Until then, the only thing to do is laugh in your face and point out how disingenuous your arguments are.
04-19-2016 | 07:42 AM
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Islamaphobia
Ummmmmmm, no.
yep, heard of languages. Also heard of history. 'Al' meaning 'the', 'ilah' meaning 'god.' Too bad it was referring to the common worship of the moon god. Could write a lot about this, but what's the point - you can look it up on the interwebz.
You might also want to read up on our country's attitude towards the 'Mohammedans' immediately after the founding. Again, you've heard of history, right?!?
yep, heard of languages. Also heard of history. 'Al' meaning 'the', 'ilah' meaning 'god.' Too bad it was referring to the common worship of the moon god. Could write a lot about this, but what's the point - you can look it up on the interwebz.
You might also want to read up on our country's attitude towards the 'Mohammedans' immediately after the founding. Again, you've heard of history, right?!?
04-19-2016 | 08:13 AM
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Allow me to afford you the respect one would give to an intelligent, educated man and say that intellectual dishonesty and disingenuousness are ugly traits, sir. Even if you're simply being sarcastic.
However, if by chance you actually are uneducated on this particular topic, you would do very well to read this...as would most people who would argue that since the word "God" isn't in the US Constitution, that must mean something significant....
Where is God in the Constitution?
04-19-2016 | 08:18 AM
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From: Guppy Gear Slinger
Allow me to afford you the respect one would give to an intelligent, educated man and say that intellectual dishonesty and disingenuousness are ugly traits, sir. Even if you're simply being sarcastic.
However, if by chance you actually are uneducated on this particular topic, you would do very well to read this...as would most people who would argue that since the word "God" isn't in the US Constitution, that must mean something significant....
Where is God in the Constitution?
However, if by chance you actually are uneducated on this particular topic, you would do very well to read this...as would most people who would argue that since the word "God" isn't in the US Constitution, that must mean something significant....
Where is God in the Constitution?
04-19-2016 | 08:29 AM
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I do have a passing acquaintance with the topic. I would ask you again: which clause of the Constitution specifies Christianity as our 'native religion'? And which denomination...Protestant, Baptist, Methodist, Episcopalian, Roman Catholic...? I must have missed that somewhere.
General Order (9 July 1776) George Washington Papers at the Library of Congress, 1741-1799: Series 3g Varick Transcripts
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"Because we have no government, armed with power, capable of contending with human passions, unbridled by morality and religion. Avarice, ambition, revenge and licentiousness would break the strongest cords of our Constitution, as a whale goes through a net. Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other. Oaths in this country are as yet universally considered as sacred obligations. That which you have taken, and so solemnly repeated on that venerable ground, is an ample pledge of your sincerity and devotion to your country and its government."
John Adams - Letter to the Officers of the First Brigade of the Third Division of the Militia of Massachusetts, 11 October 1798, in Revolutionary Services and Civil Life of General William Hull (New York, 1848), pp 265-6.
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"The God who gave us life, gave us liberty at the same time; the hand of force may destroy, but cannot disjoin them."
Summary View of the Rights of British America (1774); The Writings of Thomas Jefferson (19 Vols., 1905) edited by Andrew A. Lipscomb and Albert Ellery Bergh, Vol. 1, p. 211.
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"We hold it for a fundamental and undeniable truth, 'that Religion or the duty which we owe to our Creator and the Manner of discharging it, can be directed only by reason and conviction, not by force or violence.' The Religion then of every man must be left to the conviction and conscience of every man; and it is the right of every man to exercise it as these may dictate."
James Madison, Memorial and Remonstrance Against Religious Assessments, 1785.
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04-19-2016 | 08:36 AM
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Have a feeling that some day history is going to look at today's religions the same way we look at how the Aztecs sacrificed people and specifically children to appease their gods. Seems crazy right? I'm not sure why it's so hard for intelligent beings like humans to understand that this is it. There is no heaven. Be a good person because it's the right thing to do not because it's what got tells you. Once you die that's it. If your life sucks try and change it because there is nothing after it. If your life is great, enjoy it because you only get one.
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04-19-2016 | 08:37 AM
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"The General hopes and trusts that every officer and man will endeavor to live and act as becomes a Christian soldier defending the dearest rights and liberties of his country."
General Order (9 July 1776) George Washington Papers at the Library of Congress, 1741-1799: Series 3g Varick Transcripts
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"Because we have no government, armed with power, capable of contending with human passions, unbridled by morality and religion. Avarice, ambition, revenge and licentiousness would break the strongest cords of our Constitution, as a whale goes through a net. Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other. Oaths in this country are as yet universally considered as sacred obligations. That which you have taken, and so solemnly repeated on that venerable ground, is an ample pledge of your sincerity and devotion to your country and its government."
John Adams - Letter to the Officers of the First Brigade of the Third Division of the Militia of Massachusetts, 11 October 1798, in Revolutionary Services and Civil Life of General William Hull (New York, 1848), pp 265-6.
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"The God who gave us life, gave us liberty at the same time; the hand of force may destroy, but cannot disjoin them."
Summary View of the Rights of British America (1774); The Writings of Thomas Jefferson (19 Vols., 1905) edited by Andrew A. Lipscomb and Albert Ellery Bergh, Vol. 1, p. 211.
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"We hold it for a fundamental and undeniable truth, 'that Religion or the duty which we owe to our Creator and the Manner of discharging it, can be directed only by reason and conviction, not by force or violence.' The Religion then of every man must be left to the conviction and conscience of every man; and it is the right of every man to exercise it as these may dictate."
James Madison, Memorial and Remonstrance Against Religious Assessments, 1785.
General Order (9 July 1776) George Washington Papers at the Library of Congress, 1741-1799: Series 3g Varick Transcripts
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"Because we have no government, armed with power, capable of contending with human passions, unbridled by morality and religion. Avarice, ambition, revenge and licentiousness would break the strongest cords of our Constitution, as a whale goes through a net. Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other. Oaths in this country are as yet universally considered as sacred obligations. That which you have taken, and so solemnly repeated on that venerable ground, is an ample pledge of your sincerity and devotion to your country and its government."
John Adams - Letter to the Officers of the First Brigade of the Third Division of the Militia of Massachusetts, 11 October 1798, in Revolutionary Services and Civil Life of General William Hull (New York, 1848), pp 265-6.
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"The God who gave us life, gave us liberty at the same time; the hand of force may destroy, but cannot disjoin them."
Summary View of the Rights of British America (1774); The Writings of Thomas Jefferson (19 Vols., 1905) edited by Andrew A. Lipscomb and Albert Ellery Bergh, Vol. 1, p. 211.
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"We hold it for a fundamental and undeniable truth, 'that Religion or the duty which we owe to our Creator and the Manner of discharging it, can be directed only by reason and conviction, not by force or violence.' The Religion then of every man must be left to the conviction and conscience of every man; and it is the right of every man to exercise it as these may dictate."
James Madison, Memorial and Remonstrance Against Religious Assessments, 1785.
Ha!
I was just going to quote Adam's letter. Well played, sir.
I doubt very much if Turbosina has ever read it, given the nature of his question.
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04-19-2016 | 08:47 AM
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