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The Juice 05-05-2016 06:40 AM

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Originally Posted by phoenix 23684 (Post 2122868)
Here at F9 we are getting the same sentiment from management, It's sad. Keep fighting for what's right, I do believe ULCC is the future model, but we should not be compensated as second tier.

We (Frontier, Spirit, and Allegiant) are technically 3rd tier

Bob made it clear that we are on one tier, Jet Blue is above us, and then there are the Legacy carriers above them.

I do believe we are still on a higher tier than freshly minted CFI's and some pt 135 C210 cargo operators, operating between 0200-0500 EDT.

Silver02ex 05-05-2016 06:49 AM

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Originally Posted by RadarColor (Post 2122849)
If you're gonna compare please use the same cities, not some co-terminal logic. I also stated there was a carry-on bag fee included in the equation as well. Nice try! Same scam as Spirit's web site.

Another GMAFB

Well since you quoted me for whatever reason, I'll play your game
Tomorrow prices

SEA-LAS direct
SWA $218
Spirit $133 + $35 + 30 for personal item, a carry on and a check bag.

FLL -ATL direct
SWA- $248
Spirit -$158 + $35 +$30 for the personal, carry on and a checked bag.

galaxy flyer 05-05-2016 07:02 AM

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Originally Posted by phoenix 23684 (Post 2122868)
Here at F9 we are getting the same sentiment from management, It's sad. Keep fighting for what's right, I do believe ULCC is the future model, but we should not be compensated as second tier.

What part of Ultra Low Cost Carrier is not understood?

GF

The Juice 05-05-2016 07:35 AM

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Originally Posted by galaxy flyer (Post 2122973)
What part of Ultra Low Cost Carrier is not understood?

GF

Perhaps you have a comprehension issue on this one. "Cost," as it relates to the price of a ticket, not compensation. SWA proudly calls themselves a "Low Cost Airline," so I assume their employees (some of the highest all around in the industry) should take a lesser wage, simply because of the "low cost" in their business model.

Irony can be defined as an ex-Eastern pilot, like yourself, who struck in the 80s because Lorenzo felt your pilots were worth less than nothing, telling pilots today they should accept low wages because management says they are "low tier" for their ULCC airline. Sounds like something ol Frank Loreanzo would make a case for.

gringo 05-05-2016 07:37 AM

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Originally Posted by galaxy flyer (Post 2122973)
What part of Ultra Low Cost Carrier is not understood?

GF

Asks the guy who himself clearly doesn't understand.

Ask WN how they manage some of the highest wages in the industry all the while maintaining their "LCC" business model.

gringo 05-05-2016 07:39 AM

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Originally Posted by The Juice (Post 2122990)
Perhaps you have a comprehension issue on this one. "Cost," as it relates to the price of a ticket, not compensation. SWA proudly calls themselves a "Low Cost Airline," so I assume their employees (some of the highest all around in the industry) should take a lesser wage, simply because of the "low cost" in their business model.

Irony can be defined as an ex-Eastern pilot, like yourself, who struck in the 80s because Lorenzo felt your pilots were worth less than nothing, telling pilots today they should accept low wages because management says they are "low tier" for their ULCC airline. Sounds like something ol Frank Loreanzo would make a case for.

You beat me to it.

Either way, GF gets a "High Five".

Sadly, I'm about four short. Hope it'll do.

RalphWiggum 05-05-2016 07:47 AM

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Originally Posted by gringo (Post 2122999)
You beat me to it.

Either way, GF gets a "High Five".

Sadly, I'm about four short. Hope it'll do.

He's either a buddy of Jyri or your typical troll. Either way ignore him. Fares here have decreased YOY. CASM is one of the lowest in the world. Only dirtbags like Jyri and Bendo want you to believe that our contract is what makes or breaks the profitability of this airline.

Take a look at that earnings call and see how many millions this place wastes in mismanagement. Remember the meltdown last June? That cost $20 mil alone. They can afford to pay us what we are worth.

In the meantime continue to call daily. I'm not picking up. Go find someone else to clean up your mess. And if you can't maybe this airlines prayers will get answered and Jyri and Bendo will be shown the door

RadarColor 05-05-2016 09:05 AM

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Originally Posted by galaxy flyer (Post 2122973)
What part of Ultra Low Cost Carrier is not understood?

GF

Exactly!! Hello?!!?

DENpilot 05-05-2016 09:43 AM

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Originally Posted by galaxy flyer (Post 2122973)
What part of Ultra Low Cost Carrier is not understood?

GF

Our profit margins are higher than that of a legacy. If anything, our compensation should be higher, because there is more pie to go around.

gringo 05-05-2016 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by RadarColor (Post 2123067)
Exactly!! Hello?!!?

Another window licker who rode the short bus to school.


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