wmarti31

Not that easy. You still need to be traveling on (have a boarding pass from) one of the participating airlines.

Although Global Entry automatically gives you TSA Pre-check, you must travel on one of the TSA Pre-check participating airlines in order to use pre-check. Your boarding pass have have the 'pre-check' on it.

https://www.tsa.gov/tsa-precheck/map

Braniff DC8

So, in a public forum, you just told every terrorist how the entire system works!!! Really, fellas, please think about what you write before you write it. You've just put the entire system at risk by exposing it. Don't talk about, read your ops manuals perhaps, about security sensitive issues on an open public forum please for the love of God. You do know they read all these forums and would love another shot at us. That includes your families.

FMGEC

Um- You can not seriously think:

A- That the bad guys have not already figured out how to maneuver around the security theater of checkpoints.

B- That the posts on here gave away anything that even the most situationally unaware person on this planet can figure out on their own...even by accident.

C- That the TSA and their procedures are, in any way the words can be defined, labeled as "Effective" and/or "Competent."

full of luv

Huh, everything (except where the pilot suggests wearing a uniform to get pre-check and then changing) that has posted is on the gov's own website. The idea of Global Entry/ Pre-check is that you have voluntarily submitted to a criminal background check and to be fingerprinted in exchange for a quicker customs/TSA experience (along with a fee of course). Unfortunately the TSA thought more people would be willing to pay and cut staff in anticipation of this rush to the expedited screenings. Apparently the TSA is not aware of the general hesitancy of the average pax to pay for air travel.

blastoff

Stop talking about Fight Club. Seriously, this shouldn't be discussed any further on the board, do you need people to spell everything out for you?

To the geniuses that say "all of this is available to the public," why do you seem so intent on aggregating all of that info in one place?

full of luv

You do realize that even in attacking on 9/11, the terrorists didn't "sneak" a single item of contraband past contracted security, right?

If TSA had been in existence instead of contractors in 2001, the same events would have taken place.

blastoff

As you've pointed out the security implications are minimal. However the reactions of the press and government officials will be predictably bad for us as a group when the first non-employee idiot uses a uniform to scam the system. No benefit in us laying out how-to's here.

FMGEC

We as pilots don't need to do anything. TSA does enough themselves.
Like how is it that a FA that gets caught with pounds and pounds of cocaine...runs away from the scene...they know exactly who she is...and somehow a few hours later is able to hop on a different plane and fly from SoCal to NYC?

Very secure they are.
GMAFB

magneto

Please explain to me how Mr Badguy can just put on a uniform and walk by security? whether in uniform or not you need to show an ID. So were does Mr Badguy get a valid Crew ID?

The whole point of the pre-check program is that the person has had a background check including running their fingerprints. As pilots we have already had this done.

I could go to the airport in unifrom, walk up to the pre-check line , show my ID to the friendly TSA guy and he would wave me through.
But if I do the exact same thing, but this time I'm wearing jeans and polo shirt because I want to be comfortable during my 5 hr commute to work, then Mr Friendly TSA guy says, "stop, you go over to that line with the rest of the unwashed masses".
Where is the logic in that? It is the crew ID that shows you have been vetted, not what you are wearing. But from the posts above I guess that is just another indignity we pilots have to deal with.

full of luv

Actually, even more annoying than that, is the small airports who require a "paper" jumpseat pass to get through security at all at TSA. I nearly missed a J/S once because of this local airports rule, when the agent had already went in back to load bags as all pax were checked in, but TSA wanted a J/S'r to check in at the counter, get a pass from them, before going to the gate.

In TSA's defense, they claim (and I verified) that this is the town's policy and not a TSA policy but since it is more conservative, TSA agrees to enforce it..... how's that for standardization.