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Old 10-21-2016, 03:40 PM
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I think driverless cars will be the predictor of our fate. Once 51% of the population gets to the point where they don't think twice about entering a car with nobody sitting at the wheel, it'll all be downhill from there.

And driverless Ubers are already plying the streets even as I type this right now.

You and I might not like it, but by the time he hits my age my 5 year old boy won't know any other reality...

Remember the elevator operator? Of course not. Our kids will be marveling at the fact that way way back there were actually human beings piloting aircraft...
Yes but you need to watch the video 'Humans need not apply.'(posted a couple pages back). I believe future kids will see the day come when the concept of a 'career' went away just like the Elevator Operator. The Economist and Newsweek recently had articles about robotic surgeons. Look up IBMs Watson and medical diagnostics. Computers look up case precedent faster than a human lawyer.

Computers and robotics get smarter and faster. At a faster rate(not linear). It may reach a point called The Singularity. And not only this, but they are connected to the Internet.

Saw an article called 'The End of Work.' I've heard of serious debates about Universal Basic Income.

Saying the past shows that technology creates new jobs therefore that must always be the case is a bad assumption. Technology is a game changer and I believe that historical paradigm has run its course. Especially now that computers are getting smarter than people.

That's why it's not just pilots.
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Old 10-21-2016, 05:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Bigapplepilot View Post
Yes but you need to watch the video 'Humans need not apply.'(posted a couple pages back). I believe future kids will see the day come when the concept of a 'career' went away just like the Elevator Operator. The Economist and Newsweek recently had articles about robotic surgeons. Look up IBMs Watson and medical diagnostics. Computers look up case precedent faster than a human lawyer.

Computers and robotics get smarter and faster. At a faster rate(not linear). It may reach a point called The Singularity. And not only this, but they are connected to the Internet.

Saw an article called 'The End of Work.' I've heard of serious debates about Universal Basic Income.

Saying the past shows that technology creates new jobs therefore that must always be the case is a bad assumption. Technology is a game changer and I believe that historical paradigm has run its course. Especially now that computers are getting smarter than people.

That's why it's not just pilots.
Then the computers become self aware and ignore Asimov's law. It's all been laid out in Terminator!
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Old 10-22-2016, 08:18 AM
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The last human fighter pilot has likely already been born.
No. Despite the pronouncement of a previous SECDEF that the F-35 would be the last manned fighter, the navy and air force have started development on the next-gen strike fighter and it will be manned (perhaps optionally for some missions).

The Navy's unmanned strike/recon test aircraft has been demoted to carrier-based airborne tanker. After all the testing they are confident it can land, take off, and execute a holding pattern.

For combat or ops in a contested environment, you can't anticipate and pre-program responses for anything the enemy might think of to do so, so you really need a general AI, which doesn't exist yet (whole nother can of worms there).
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Originally Posted by horrido27 View Post
No they are not!
Please read actually news articles and not the headlines. There are no Uber driveless vehicles on the roads. Be it Pittsburgh or anywhere else. All these "driveless" vehicles have two drivers in them!

Uber launches driverless car service in landmark US trial - ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation)

We are decades away from pilotless air carriers.
Maybe. Maybe not. Airbus appears to be pursuing a flying Uber--one without a pilot:

Airbus offers a peek at its flying taxi - Oct. 20, 2016
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Old 10-22-2016, 08:44 AM
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Whatever.
Once the electro-magnetic pulse of a Putin nuke becomes reality, it's back to elevator operators.
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Old 10-22-2016, 11:51 AM
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Sioux City Accident: No procedure for what happened, AI can not reason like humans and that is what saved the day and why a human will always be in the flightdeck.
You are so, so, so, so wrong.
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Old 10-22-2016, 12:40 PM
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The first robot that is three miles in trail of landing traffic at LGA and gets told to start S turns in order to get a departure out is going to sh!t itself.
Of course the robot wouldn't dork up the separation to begin with
Or get "nervous" that it only has 3 miles, further dorking it up. Under the new RECAT 2.5 is not uncommon- except that pilots not used to it get spooked. Robots in ATC as well soon?
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Originally Posted by rickair7777 View Post
No. Despite the pronouncement of a previous SECDEF that the F-35 would be the last manned fighter, the navy and air force have started development on the next-gen strike fighter and it will be manned (perhaps optionally for some missions).

The Navy's unmanned strike/recon test aircraft has been demoted to carrier-based airborne tanker. After all the testing they are confident it can land, take off, and execute a holding pattern.

For combat or ops in a contested environment, you can't anticipate and pre-program responses for anything the enemy might think of to do so, so you really need a general AI, which doesn't exist yet (whole nother can of worms there).
I would think that by the time a baby born today - hence my comment - was able to graduate from flight school in 24 years, that technology would exist?
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Old 10-22-2016, 02:16 PM
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People- the advancement of technology is exponential. The new technology we see 10 years from now will be orders of magnitude more advanced than the technology we have now.

Technology will advance at a faster rate over the next 10 years than it has over the past 20, and then even faster than that over the following 5 years.

It's not a question of how fast it will take to make it technologically possible. It's a question of how slow companies and the FAA will be at facilitating it.
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The real reason that military planners want unmanned fighter planes is because human pilots will be too busy with queep to fly anything.
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