And Captains probably outnumber F/O's 60/40.

 

Some people have a hard time believing the median listed in the article. But if you look at the numbers of Majors to regional pilots, then the median would seem correct. There are many more Major pilots then regional pilots

American, Delta, Northwest, Southwest, Continental, US air, United, UPS, FedEx alone have 51500 pilots.

ALL the regionals listed on APC only add up to 22,000 appoximatly
(American Eagle, ASA, Comair, Expressjet, MESA, Skywest, Air Wisconsin,Big Sky,Chautauqua,Colgan Air,CommutAir,Era,GoJet,Great Lakes,Gulfstream Int'l,Horizon Air,Island Air,Mesaba,Piedmont,Pinnacle,PSA,Republic Airways,Shuttle America,Skyway,Trans States)


ps. Adding those up is a half hour of my life im never gonna get back haha

 

There's 52,000 pilots working for the legacies, Fedex, UPS and SWA according to APC. They're ALL making close to or more 130k except for first or second year guys.

Among the carriers listed on APC as Major-National LCC's, most of the Capts make at or more than 130k.

Among all the carriers listed as Regionals on APC, there's less than 12,000 pilots.

 

I think is would be safe to say that at least 500 if not more of the 2500 skyw pilots make 19 dollars an hour. The remaing 750 fo’s left max out at 40, and the majority of the 1250 Capt.‘s left have been there for 5-10 years make on avg 70 $ an hour.
19*500=9500
37*750=27750
70*1250=87500
9500+27750+87500=124750
124750/2500=49.9
49.9$*1000 hrs per year= 49,900 dollars a year
That’s my rough estimate of what the mean skyw pilot makes per year. I would say that the mean income of an airline pilot would be less that the median as previously stated.

 

You included some of the Major-National LCC's as regionals that I didn't. Among the true regionals, there's significantly less than 22,000.

I still have about 15 minutes of that half hour left!

 

Would someone please figure the derivative of the total compensation of all airline pilots so we can get the mean salary.

 

i had already corrected my post.....

you put a missile in the air before i could pop flares....

calling KNOCK IT OFF..........

 

I guess since SkyGirl has had her forum access removed she will not be coming to my defense. Oscar, I'm not a socialist. As I've said on other threads there is a difference between having social values and being a socialist. I think you must know that right? As far as being one of the 15%, I never followed up on that comment did I?

The 15% refers to the die hard supporters of Bush. I don't know if you are one of them. If you are, you probably don't have the sense to be flying airplanes. I'm guessing you're not.

 

They are talking about median income bla, not mean income. They are two very different measures of stats. I suggest you go reread the post and find where 1 seat explained it.

On another note, if you want to start talking about mean incomes, that is no way to base pay for pilots. The pay scales are to diverse to accurately measure what pilot pay is really like. The only true mean stat you could come up with is to compare first year pays, second year pays, and so on. That gives an idea of what pilot pay is like as the years progress. You would also have to separate captains and FO because they also differ.

Another way to explain how mean is inaccurate is to look at two different scenarios. First one is an airline that has only been in business for 5 years. If you took the mean income for the pilots that would be very low because the most senior pilot only has been there five years. Second airline has been in business 20 years and all the pilots have been there for ten years min. That mean is very high when compared, they have the same pay scales in this though.

just my borrowed two cents though

 

Yeah read my posts again. I said the mean would be less than the median...........

"The only true mean stat you could come up with is to compare first year pays, second year pays, and so on."

That’s why I said you would have to figure the derivative to get the mean pilot wage.

Remember business calc? I don’t.
Anyway, my point is regionals have such a significant number of junior pilots making such low wages that would drop the mean below the median.