Pilot Phraseology and Radio Usage
02-21-2007, 04:03 AM
#21
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Originally Posted by Seeburg220
Thanks all for the welcome
They cancelled data link a few years back from what I heard. It would make life so much easier, so I hope they un-cancel it.
They cancelled data link a few years back from what I heard. It would make life so much easier, so I hope they un-cancel it.
http://www.mitrecaasd.org/work/proje...fm?item_id=110
02-21-2007, 05:00 AM
#22
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Originally Posted by JetJocF14
See: All very good points. I admit on occasion I'll drop the who I am part of your clearance. But when you give me a clearance of cross 30 miles east of Robinson, turn left to heading 010 descent to and maintain 15 Thousand and contact NYC center on frequency 131.24 then something gotta give. Its my callsign. I'll work on it. ............. Cheers.......
02-21-2007, 08:42 AM
#23
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"Hey, are you flying the 727? That's my favorite bird!"
Not anymore. I was on it for about 10 years between the back and the right seat. It was great while it lasted. The easiest trips at UPS. I was forced off, though, when the trips I liked went away and it's been all downhill with the 727 since. Rumor has it that they will be gone by next year.
Not anymore. I was on it for about 10 years between the back and the right seat. It was great while it lasted. The easiest trips at UPS. I was forced off, though, when the trips I liked went away and it's been all downhill with the 727 since. Rumor has it that they will be gone by next year.
02-21-2007, 09:32 AM
#24
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Great original post, I am sure there are many more items that would be pet peeves of ATC in regards to poor Radio procedures. Being a primary instructor in the Navy, the things we teach can lead to habits both good and bad and one of the things I have found to be very helpful to keep students from stepping on others when checking in is to have them tune both the UHF and VHF freq's and be listening to both before keying the mic. This greatly reduces the chances of a student trying to hurry his/her comms.
02-21-2007, 10:17 AM
#25
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Those were some great suggestions all around. I always appreciate hearing from controllers; there's no better way to improve one's phraseology. I also really liked kansas' suggestion to check engine instruments upon a freq change. Any other suggestions are always welcome. Thanks again.
02-21-2007, 10:40 AM
#26
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Position: SWA
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Guys,
I really embarrassed myself in STL this weekend getting clearance and switching to approach freq instead of departure freq after takeoff. My question is, are the radio procedures for each airport published somewhere? I must have missed that class in UPT Thanks!
Jim
I really embarrassed myself in STL this weekend getting clearance and switching to approach freq instead of departure freq after takeoff. My question is, are the radio procedures for each airport published somewhere? I must have missed that class in UPT Thanks!
Jim
02-21-2007, 02:09 PM
#27
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Usually the instrument procedures published for that airport will list the departure and approach frequencies. It also should have been read to you in your clearance.
Alot of times (in my experience) the approach and departure controller is the same person, and same freq. Ya just call them as departure or approach, depending on what your doing at the time.
Correct me if im wrong?
Edit: Forgot, it's also often times listed in the ATIS as well.
Alot of times (in my experience) the approach and departure controller is the same person, and same freq. Ya just call them as departure or approach, depending on what your doing at the time.
Correct me if im wrong?
Edit: Forgot, it's also often times listed in the ATIS as well.
