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NYC Pilot 12-02-2016 07:08 PM

You guys are funny! This career has always paid low wages, nothing new...There was a brief period in the early 2000's when UAL and DAL had good contracts and that didn't last long. Although the wages are decent now, there are no more pensions. At best, an airline career will give one a middle class lifestyle and that's about it. However, there are those that will retire wealthy relatively speaking but those are very few who made some good investment decisions. Norwegian is not the only problem on the horizon, there will be many other obstacles to face n it's not over yet. Having said that, an airline job is still not that bad of a career assuming one loves the profession.

50SeatsofGrey 12-02-2016 07:13 PM


Originally Posted by Xtreme87 (Post 2254677)
Yea, but the market is still on our side. Good luck staffing that airline when the legacy carriers pay double and destroy that place in work rules. Anybody dumb enough to go work there should be banned from ever getting a job at any US carrier.

The market is not on our side. The market is on their side. Are you actually saying this company will not survive because it wouldn't be able to find pilots? That's what's you're going to rely on?

Not only will NAI staff their airplanes easily, but now that this precedent is set they will be the first of MANY flag of convienence carriers which will collectively destroy United, Delta, and American.

Grumble 12-02-2016 07:13 PM


Originally Posted by NYC Pilot (Post 2254682)
You guys are funny! This career has always paid low wages, nothing new...There was a brief period in the early 2000's when UAL and DAL had good contracts and that didn't last long. Although the wages are decent now, there are no more pensions. At best, an airline career will give one a middle class lifestyle and that's about it. However, there are those that will retire wealthy relatively speaking but those are very few who made some good investment decisions. Norwegian is not the only problem on the horizon, there will be many other obstacles to face n it's not over yet. Having said that, an airline job is still not that bad of a career assuming one loves the profession.

You obviously don't understand the scope of this decision.

SUX4U 12-02-2016 07:17 PM


Originally Posted by 50SeatsofGrey (Post 2254686)
The market is not on our side. The market is on their side. Are you actually saying this company will not survive because it wouldn't be able to find pilots? That's what's you're going to rely on?

Not only will NAI staff their airplanes easily, but now that this precedent is set they will be the first of MANY flag of convienence carriers which will collectively destroy United, Delta, and American.

You're totally right! United is doomed. I think it's time to look into resigning instead of delaying the inevitable.

50SeatsofGrey 12-02-2016 07:18 PM


Originally Posted by Grumble (Post 2254687)
You obviously don't understand the scope of this decision.

Nobody does. This baffles me. The biggest threat to all of our livelihoods and people shake it off. They think because there's a large number of retirements on the horizon that they're immune from bad times.

Look at the past 10 years, the 'lost decade' if you will. One unprecedented, unexpected thing after another. I don't understand why people think the next 10 years will be any different- like we're permantly over the hump and the next 10 years will be smooth sailing. If anything, it follows that the next 10 years will have unprecedented and unexpected events just like the last 10.

50SeatsofGrey 12-02-2016 07:19 PM


Originally Posted by SUX4U (Post 2254690)
You're totally right! United is doomed. I think it's time to look into resigning instead of delaying the inevitable.

How many US cruise lines can you name?

There were plenty before they pulled this in the maritime industry.

CanoePilot 12-02-2016 07:19 PM

Thanks Obama.

I hope no airline allows any Jump seating for their pilots.

CanoePilot 12-02-2016 07:20 PM


Originally Posted by Xtreme87 (Post 2254632)
Globalization is a cancer. We will never be able to compete with other countries and their low wages.

Only one person ran as anti-globalization. Thank god he won.


Originally Posted by northdakota (Post 2254642)
I bet this isn't the last Friday evening sell-out of this country by Obama. Good thing he doesn't have many Friday evenings left in power until he is relegated to the history books next to Herbert Hoover and Jimmy Carter in the chapter labeled "failed presidents".

Next up mass pardoning of illegals.

B200 Hawk 12-02-2016 07:37 PM

Puhlease...NAI won't affect anything. It's that god dam high speed monorail combined with teleportation tech that is going to screw us all.

50SeatsofGrey 12-02-2016 07:38 PM


Originally Posted by B200 Hawk (Post 2254707)
Puhlease...NAI won't affect anything. It's that god dam high speed monorail combined with teleportation tech that is going to screw us all.

I know you're being sarcastic, but the hyperloop is not a threat to the airlines. It's meant for commuting.


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