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The Juice 12-05-2016 05:09 PM


Originally Posted by Macjet (Post 2256430)
Sitting half way up the NK seniority list isn't looking as bad as I thought.

Don't be so comfortable. Best thing for Spirit pilots is for Legacy carriers to have a vested interest in international travel. Last thing Spirit pilots want are Legacy carriers intensely refocusing on the domestic side

50SeatsofGrey 12-05-2016 05:17 PM


Originally Posted by The Juice (Post 2256542)
Don't be so comfortable. Best thing for Spirit pilots is for Legacy carriers to have a vested interest in international travel. Last thing Spirit pilots want are Legacy carriers intensely refocusing on the domestic side

In a domestic flight to the death between UAL and Spirit, I'd take Ned's Kids any day.

Most of you aren't gonna wanna hear it, but LCCs are gonna be the place to be from now on.

ShyGuy 12-05-2016 05:30 PM


Originally Posted by 50SeatsofGrey (Post 2256411)
"Ah this is no big deal maybe a few widebody jobs will shrink"

-All of APC

You thought age 65 sucked? This is gonna hit us like a ton of bricks. The worst part is most of you woln't see it coming. Start working on a strong second source of income.

What about the major airlines here that don't have wide bodies? We should be cool?

50SeatsofGrey 12-05-2016 05:33 PM


Originally Posted by ShyGuy (Post 2256562)
What about the major airlines here that don't have wide bodies? We should be cool?

Spirit, Frontier, JetBlue, Southwest and Allegiant should remain relatively unaffected, assuming they keep within the US.

pilotpayne 12-05-2016 05:40 PM


Originally Posted by 50SeatsofGrey (Post 2256566)
Spirit, Frontier, JetBlue, Southwest and Allegiant should remain relatively unaffected, assuming they keep within the US.

Jetblue CEO is pushing for 321lr flights to Europe

WhiskeyDelta 12-05-2016 05:47 PM


Originally Posted by 50SeatsofGrey (Post 2256552)
In a domestic flight to the death between UAL and Spirit, I'd take Ned's Kids any day.

Most of you aren't gonna wanna hear it, but LCCs are gonna be the place to be from now on.

Anyone trying to predict the future of our industry on the macro level is an idiot. Many people far smarter than you have tried and failed.

Talk about a perfect case of drama queen talk.

gettinbumped 12-05-2016 05:49 PM


Originally Posted by 50SeatsofGrey (Post 2256552)
In a domestic flight to the death between UAL and Spirit, I'd take Ned's Kids any day.

Most of you aren't gonna wanna hear it, but LCCs are gonna be the place to be from now on.

At about $80 more an hour with the new pay raises for narrow body Captain, I think I'll stay put. UAL has more to fear from Trump's saber rattling with China than it does with Norwegian.

Spirit does what it does very well. UAL has recently adopted the Spirit model for Basic Economy because it seems a growing market for folks who are extremely price conscious. But far away the most profitable portion of UAL's market is made up of folks that aren't interested in the Spirit product. We will see....

GogglesPisano 12-05-2016 05:53 PM


Originally Posted by 50SeatsofGrey (Post 2256552)
Most of you aren't gonna wanna hear it, but LCCs are gonna be the place to be from now on.

The same was said in the early 2000's. I think most guys who bailed for the legacies from LCC's when the legacies started hiring again have no regrets.

The LCC segment will definitely see some consolidation in the near future as well.

WhiskeyDelta 12-05-2016 05:53 PM


Originally Posted by gettinbumped (Post 2256579)
At about $80 more an hour with the new pay raises for narrow body Captain, I think I'll stay put. UAL has more to fear from Trump's saber rattling with China than it does with Norwegian.

Spirit does what it does very well. UAL has recently adopted the Spirit model for Basic Economy because it seems a growing market for folks who are extremely price conscious. But far away the most profitable portion of UAL's market is made up of folks that aren't interested in the Spirit product. We will see....

Haha...Spirit has a product! Funniest thing I've heard all day.

50SeatsofGrey 12-05-2016 06:10 PM


Originally Posted by WhiskeyDelta (Post 2256575)
Anyone trying to predict the future of our industry on the macro level is an idiot. Many people far smarter than you have tried and failed.

Talk about a perfect case of drama queen talk.

There's nothing to predict. Spirit has an observable, competitive edge. If you had to bet, you would be foolish not to bet on spirit.

If you think I'm being dramatic, you simply don't fully understand whats going on. Companies rise and fall. Like I keep saying, how many US flag cruise lines can you name that operate today?


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