Pre 9/11 payscales
Does anyone have a pre 9/11 (or pre 30-40% concession contract) pay sclaes for any of the legacy carriers?
This would be a great resource as ALL of the legacies are going to be in contract negotiations within the next 2 or so years. Thanks |
American Airlines First Officer Rates effective 8/31/99
A/C type*****2nd year*****7th year*****12th year MD80********60.63*******109.12*******120.46 767*********66.15*******119.06*******131.43 777-300******78.48*******141.25*******155.93 Sorry I don't have Capt rates. Twelve year FO rates times 1.5 would get you fairly close. This chart lists the following A/C; 777-300, 777-200, 747SP, DC10-30, DC10-10, A300, 767-300, 767-2ER, 767, 757, 737-800, 727-200B, 727-223, 727-100, MD80, 737-300, 737-200, F100...yes that's 19 of them. It looks like they are currently 12-15% below the 99 rates. Hope this helps. |
Here are the pre-concession 12th year rates at NWA:
CAPT 747-400......273.15 747............259.87 A330..........246.00 DC10..........244.78 757............219.96 A320..........211.70 DC9...........191.20 FO 747-400......185.74 747............176.71 A330..........167.28 DC10..........166.45 757............149.57 A320..........143.96 DC9............130.02 SO 747............155.92 DC10..........146.87 Hope that is helpful. |
remeber ryan that a more important part of a contract than pay rate is the section that refers to QOL and benefits. good QOL and benefits are the equivalen in $ of 30%-40% of hourly rates. bringing that back would be more important than bringing back pay rates.
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DAL May 2001 Rates
FO 2nd Year MD80----100.82 737NG---111.26 756------114.99 777------138.60 CA 12th Year MD80-----208.01 737NG----224.80 756-------234.42 777-------280.07 |
For comparison...pre-9/11 leading regional payrates
Comair 2001 Contract 6/05 Rates
CA---CR7----CR2 5---73.66---66.96 5---78.32---71.20 8---85.81---78.01 12--98.67---88.10 18-118.22--105.55 Air Wisconsin 2001 Contract 8/05 Rates CA---146---CL65 3----81.18---67.65 5----86.29---71.91 8----94.54---78.79 12---106.79--88.99 18---127.86--106.60 |
Originally Posted by greedyairlineexec
(Post 122390)
remeber ryan that a more important part of a contract than pay rate is the section that refers to QOL and benefits. good QOL and benefits are the equivalen in $ of 30%-40% of hourly rates. bringing that back would be more important than bringing back pay rates.
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Originally Posted by Ellen
(Post 122712)
Show me your calculation that QOL and benefits are equivalent to 30-40% of hourly wages. Please post your spread sheet.
Once the kids have have graduated from college, the money might be more important. However, that's still 16 years away. |
ATA's were far worse than they are now, but in 2002 they became pretty damn good, getting better.
However, in 2004 the first of 3 rounds of concessions began along with BK. |
Originally Posted by dl_1011
(Post 122370)
Here are the pre-concession 12th year rates at NWA:
CAPT 747-400......273.15 747............259.87 A330..........246.00 DC10..........244.78 757............219.96 A320..........211.70 DC9...........191.20 FO 747-400......185.74 747............176.71 A330..........167.28 DC10..........166.45 757............149.57 A320..........143.96 DC9............130.02 SO 747............155.92 DC10..........146.87 Hope that is helpful. |
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