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Old 01-20-2017, 06:33 AM
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at DL you need 2 flights, in order to be positive spaced on the second one it has to be on delta or delta connection.
One thing about that is that some folks seem almost afraid to use it, some seem to indicate they'd rather call in sick. The PWA does say it should be used sparingly but what's the use if we can't utilize it on the odd occasion? Or have I not been here long enough to see the big picture?

One of 2 vexing things here along with iCrew
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Old 01-20-2017, 09:17 AM
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One thing about that is that some folks seem almost afraid to use it, some seem to indicate they'd rather call in sick. The PWA does say it should be used sparingly but what's the use if we can't utilize it on the odd occasion? Or have I not been here long enough to see the big picture?
You may be missing part of the picture: there are actually two policies. There's the "Call in Honest" in the PWA that you cite; and the "Unable to Commute" in the FOM. Both are important to know as a commuter. The FOM policy is generally the better one (that's the one that gets you PS on the backup flight), but, there may be cases where you cannot meet the UtC rules but can meet the CiH rules. That, and the fact that CiH is contractual....
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Old 01-20-2017, 06:13 PM
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At our airline, you need one primary and two separate backups that will all arrive before report time. Also, technically the timing has to be such that it was feasible to try all 3 flights. Eg, if one leaves at 6am and one leaves at 605am, it probably wasn't feasible you could have gotten this second flight if you missed the first. I think we get one freebie a year, a second one can lead to like a warning letter kinda thing. If you miss then it's unpaid and you can rejoin your trip somewhere and do the rest then.
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Old 01-21-2017, 05:25 AM
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SKW doesn't have a policy, but the de facto policy is "flexibility".

If you call in honest, and they need you they'll help you get to work and do something with you. If they don't need you, you can do reserve, call off emergency, or chase your trip to the next hub and get back on it.

The benefit to this system is that you're not bound by any commuting rules about numbers of flights, timing, available seats, etc. Calling in honest allows the company to get some work out of you, and you to get some pay.

I imagine if you miss a lot of commutes, they'll want talk about improving your commuting planning.
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Old 01-21-2017, 09:37 AM
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SKW doesn't have a policy, but the de facto policy is "flexibility".

If you call in honest, and they need you they'll help you get to work and do something with you. If they don't need you, you can do reserve, call off emergency, or chase your trip to the next hub and get back on it.

The benefit to this system is that you're not bound by any commuting rules about numbers of flights, timing, available seats, etc. Calling in honest allows the company to get some work out of you, and you to get some pay.

I imagine if you miss a lot of commutes, they'll want talk about improving your commuting planning.
When I was a rep I got fair amount of gruff from some guys about our lack of a commuting policy. Truth is as you point out it was never a problem except for a few repeat offenders. And even those guys never had any true discipline to speak of to my knowledge.

Looking back it was a pretty good way to do it, though on the other hand having something in a contract does offer protection in the event a chief isn't so accommodating.
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Old 01-21-2017, 12:55 PM
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ExpressJet has two commuter drop options. And you can also use a commuter drop for ground transportation.

One flight that arrives 15 minutes prior to show time that has at least one seat open, including the JS, at your pass travel classification 36 hours before the flight. You can use this option three times every rolling 12 months. Or the other option is to have two flights. You can use this option unlimitedly. Of course, you don't get paid for any flights missed.

In my opinion, it's always best to have things in writhing in life. This benefits both sides as there is no misunderstanding on what's everyone's expectations. Not having one seems to usually favor one side.

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Old 01-21-2017, 01:42 PM
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ExpressJet has two commuter drop options. And you can also use a commuter drop for ground transportation.

One flight that arrives 15 minutes prior to show time that has at least one seat open, including the JS, at your pass travel classification 36 hours before the flight. You can use this option three times every rolling 12 months. Or the other option is to have two flights. You can use this option unlimitedly. Of course, you don't get paid for any flights missed.

In my opinion, it's always best to have things in writhing in life. This benefits both sides as there is no misunderstanding on what's everyone's expectations. Not having one seems to usually favor one side.
At my previous regional, the requirements to comply with the commuter clause made it impractical in most cases unless you were traveling between two big hubs with multiple airline service.
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Old 01-22-2017, 03:12 PM
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Originally Posted by rickair7777 View Post
At my previous regional, the requirements to comply with the commuter clause made it impractical in most cases unless you were traveling between two big hubs with multiple airline service.


That's an issue of the actual commuter clause rather than having none in your CBA.
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Old 01-23-2017, 09:34 PM
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SWA is 1 SWA flight that gets in by report time or 2 OAL flights which get in an hour prior to report.
SWA is ANY 2 flight opportunities (SWA or OAL) to arrive by Report, or just 1 if it is SWA and scheds to arrive an hour before report.
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Jetblue's commuter policy mirrors SWA with 1 B6 flight scheduled to arrive at least 1hr before report time or 2 OAL/B6 flights scheduled to arrive anytime before report time and with enough seats available for your applicable standby priority.
Where is that written? I ran into a JB pilot that said they essentially have no commuter policy because the policy protects you in no way. Apparently there is some kind of Dependability Program in place that does not care about the commuter policy, hence the commuter policy does not protect you in any way.

He also said the flight scheduling manual (?) makes no mention of commuting with only 1 flight (no backup) as long as it's on JB.

So how does this mirror SW?
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