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Beech Dude 01-16-2026 03:35 AM


Originally Posted by HumbleHawk (Post 3992663)
I'm not following the situation closely, but I understand that one of our combat aviators of the first Gulf War, Captain Mark Kelly, USN, is facing some political pressure at the current time. Military people are subject to the whims of whatever political leaders are currently holding power.

Russian, American, Ukrainian, German, or whatever, the military men and women rely on their political leadership to exercise their best judgment. When the political leadership makes poor decisions, the military suffers. It has always been that way.

Yeah. He's got a lawsuit coming in 🔥 and will win. I dont agree with Kelly politically most of the time, not schooled up on his statements that got him in hot water other than, I get his sentiment but were they were in poor taste. However, not illegal IMO and definitely not ok to pull benefits or pension. He'll win in court.

rickair7777 01-21-2026 07:38 AM

I agree that his comments were in poor taste. As a US Senator he should have simply resigned his commission before pushing the boundaries to that degree, not like he needs the chump change at his level of play. If you take the king's coin, you are beholden to the crown to at least some degree.

For those not aware military officer "retired" isn't what you think it is... it's actually "retainer" pay, you retain your commission, are subject to recall in emergency, and are expected to behave with some decorum. At some advanced age you do actually become "retired" in the conventional sense.

The courts will decide exactly where the line is drawn. Worst they'll be able to do is reduce him in rank to the last grade at which he honorably served, which would be O5. O5 pay with 30 years is good beer money.

Sliceback 01-25-2026 06:16 PM


Originally Posted by rickair7777 (Post 3995002)
I agree that his comments were in poor taste. As a US Senator he should have simply resigned his commission before pushing the boundaries to that degree, not like he needs the chump change at his level of play. If you take the king's coin, you are beholden to the crown to at least some degree.

For those not aware military officer "retired" isn't what you think it is... it's actually "retainer" pay, you retain your commission, are subject to recall in emergency, and are expected to behave with some decorum. At some advanced age you do actually become "retired" in the conventional sense.

The courts will decide exactly where the line is drawn. Worst they'll be able to do is reduce him in rank to the last grade at which he honorably served, which would be O5. O5 pay with 30 years is good beer money.

Isn't O-6 pay something like 20% more?


Pervis 03-21-2026 06:52 AM


Originally Posted by USMCFLYR (Post 701744)
They may have only SHOT down 170 or so....but the others crapped themselves to death on the way back to base after tangling with the CORP............I mean CORPS! ;)
You really are itching for a whooping aren't you?

USMCFLYR

You do know why Crayola only made 64 count boxes. That’s a s high as Marines can count. 170, 340, etc are numbers meaningless to the “Corps”.😉


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