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MoonShot 02-19-2008 06:08 AM

DAL/NWA pilots agree?
 
http://money.cnn.com/2008/02/19/news...ion=2008021907

Details tomorrow perhaps.

iahflyr 02-19-2008 06:16 AM

Tomorrow (Wednesday 2/20) is going to be very interesting.

Hopefully this will set off a chain of consolidation that will strengthen the airline industry over the long term.

Fewer airlines means less competition
Less competition makes it easier to raise fares
Raising fares means for revenue
More revenue means more profit
More profit means a more stable company
A more stable company making more profits is good for pilots.

Mergers may only sting short term. Long term, they should be good for the industry.

jdt30 02-19-2008 06:21 AM


Originally Posted by iahflyr (Post 323111)
Mergers may only sting short term. Long term, they should be good for the industry.

I've flown for CAL for two years. I fly with old Continental, People Express, New York Air, and Frontier Pilots that still are angry about the mergers that happened about twenty years ago. I hope you are right about it being good, but trust me they sting for quite a while.

Oldfreightdawg 02-19-2008 07:05 AM

NWA friend of mine commented that ALPA is playing the "we will help you" (with integration) in the merger process in exchnge for large pay increases. Some think it may be part of "the deal". Anyone out there from NWA-DAL care to comment???

staplegun 02-19-2008 10:17 AM


Originally Posted by Oldfreightdawg (Post 323141)
NWA friend of mine commented that ALPA is playing the "we will help you" (with integration) in the merger process in exchnge for large pay increases. Some think it may be part of "the deal". Anyone out there from NWA-DAL care to comment???

Things are very quiet right now at Delta....

Expect an MEC Chairman's letter late today or tommorrow...


Kevin

makoshark72 02-19-2008 12:10 PM

Very quiet at NWA....

dragon 02-20-2008 03:29 AM

Not so fast
 
Seems the pilot groups agree on the pay but can't agree on the seniority of a combined airline.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/23232995/

TNT AV8R 02-20-2008 05:42 AM

It's BS NWA wants "thousands" of Delta pilots to be at the bottom of the seniority list. Get real.

KKKBTAXI 02-20-2008 03:38 PM


Originally Posted by TNT AV8R (Post 323858)
It's BS NWA wants "thousands" of Delta pilots to be at the bottom of the seniority list. Get real.


I have heard rumors of NWA pilots being stapled to the bottom, or that Delta wants a 4-1 integration. I have even heard of a 1-1 integration with post 9/11 pilots being integrated by date of hire. Obviously, anyone that knows the real answer is not allowed to state what is going on, but if the rumors are ture that Delta should have the upper hand...why should this be the right way? Both companies can operate fine on there own whether merged or not. 4-1 sounds greedy to me...

RockyBoy 02-20-2008 06:32 PM


Originally Posted by KKKBTAXI (Post 324261)
I have even heard of a 1-1 integration with post 9/11 pilots being integrated by date of hire.

I think this is what NWA wants and that would basically put the 5000 NWA pilots integrated with the first 5000 Delta pilots, then the last two thousand Delta pilots would end up at the bottom except for the 150 NWA newhires who would get DOH. Not gonna happen.


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