Correcting NWA MEC's little fibs
04-22-2008, 02:46 PM
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Originally Posted by sailingfun
The offer to work only on a joint contract prior to a SLI means all the items posted about DALPA trying to screw NWA are invalid. LOA 19 will only make it easier to get a better joint contract. If NWA is serious they will get a team together and start a joint contract.
The problem is not a joint contract. Both sides have said that all points of the proposed joint contract were agreed to. The stumbling block was the SLI. We started with DOH, you guys started with ratio. It looks like the last proposals on both sides were ratios, but we just couldn't agree on the ratio. Maybe I'm missing something here, but if last time we stumbled because of the SLI, shouldn't we do that first? Then the combined agreement should be a piece of cake.
Carl
04-22-2008, 03:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Carl Spackler
Sailing,
The problem is not a joint contract. Both sides have said that all points of the proposed joint contract were agreed to. The stumbling block was the SLI. We started with DOH, you guys started with ratio. It looks like the last proposals on both sides were ratios, but we just couldn't agree on the ratio. Maybe I'm missing something here, but if last time we stumbled because of the SLI, shouldn't we do that first? Then the combined agreement should be a piece of cake.
Carl
The problem is not a joint contract. Both sides have said that all points of the proposed joint contract were agreed to. The stumbling block was the SLI. We started with DOH, you guys started with ratio. It looks like the last proposals on both sides were ratios, but we just couldn't agree on the ratio. Maybe I'm missing something here, but if last time we stumbled because of the SLI, shouldn't we do that first? Then the combined agreement should be a piece of cake.
Carl
Carl,
Wow...we agree on something. Now were getting somewhere!
04-22-2008, 06:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Carl Spackler
Sailing,
The problem is not a joint contract. Both sides have said that all points of the proposed joint contract were agreed to. The stumbling block was the SLI. We started with DOH, you guys started with ratio. It looks like the last proposals on both sides were ratios, but we just couldn't agree on the ratio. Maybe I'm missing something here, but if last time we stumbled because of the SLI, shouldn't we do that first? Then the combined agreement should be a piece of cake.
Carl
The problem is not a joint contract. Both sides have said that all points of the proposed joint contract were agreed to. The stumbling block was the SLI. We started with DOH, you guys started with ratio. It looks like the last proposals on both sides were ratios, but we just couldn't agree on the ratio. Maybe I'm missing something here, but if last time we stumbled because of the SLI, shouldn't we do that first? Then the combined agreement should be a piece of cake.
Carl
SLI will work itself out over time. There is a path to getting that done. A joint contract with oil over $115/bbl, an economy in trouble, airlines losing a third of ther value in a day as their losses mount could be more problematic. Furthermore, having a joint contract held hostage by disappointment over an arbitrators award on SLI (look at AAA/AWA) makes it even more important to get the joint contract hammered out first.
04-22-2008, 06:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Reroute
I don't think the joint contract will be the "piece of cake" some might believe. The economic circumstances have changed since February.
SLI will work itself out over time. There is a path to getting that done. A joint contract with oil over $115/bbl, an economy in trouble, airlines losing a third of ther value in a day as their losses mount could be more problematic. Furthermore, having a joint contract held hostage by disappointment over an arbitrators award on SLI (look at AAA/AWA) makes it even more important to get the joint contract hammered out first.
SLI will work itself out over time. There is a path to getting that done. A joint contract with oil over $115/bbl, an economy in trouble, airlines losing a third of ther value in a day as their losses mount could be more problematic. Furthermore, having a joint contract held hostage by disappointment over an arbitrators award on SLI (look at AAA/AWA) makes it even more important to get the joint contract hammered out first.
Carl
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