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Old 08-24-2008, 08:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Nosmo King View Post
Regarding the LOA to move the base without a rebid. ALPA was credited $$$ towards the total amount of concessions in return for allowing this move. The NWA MEC chairman (accompanied by Duane Woerth) gave up double CA augmentation CONTRARY to the explicit instructions of the MEC. It was given up at about 1am in the morning on the day the company threatened to file Chapter 11. We then got to vote on the concesions package at about 3-4am. We later had to buy back the double CA augmentation by extending the reduced payrates for a longer period of time.
Ahhh yes, Duane Woerth. Defender of the profession. And presider over the worst period of degradation to this profession and union EVER! Wonder why he never got a 50% paycut and loss of retirement? Disgusting.
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Old 08-24-2008, 08:57 PM
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Rumor has it that he is now a lobbyist for NWA...
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Old 08-25-2008, 06:37 AM
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Originally Posted by Carl Spackler View Post
With regard to No Bump - No Flush, a lot is going to depend on if there is a drop dead date for No Bump - No Flush. I would think there would have to be at least a few years of protection at a minimum.

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Carl,
You are correct - "No bump - no flush" is currently just a concept, nothing more. I have seen numerous references to it as if it was already written in our contracts. Until the SLI and related details are finalized it is nothing more than a noble goal.
Regarding the thread title, Cash Reserves, it appears DAL just spent a little more of that cash by increasing the 777LR order by two more - now thats the way to spend your cash.

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Old 08-25-2008, 08:01 AM
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Carl,
You are correct - "No bump - no flush" is currently just a concept, nothing more. I have seen numerous references to it as if it was already written in our contracts. Until the SLI and related details are finalized it is nothing more than a noble goal.
Regarding the thread title, Cash Reserves, it appears DAL just spent a little more of that cash by increasing the 777LR order by two more - now thats the way to spend your cash.

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A couple more 747-400's would be even nobler.

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Old 08-25-2008, 10:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Carl Spackler View Post
A couple more 747-400's would be even nobler.

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I doubt we'll ever see anymore of those. 777LRs, yes, 777-300s probably, but with the capability and efficiency of the 777s, I don't see DL ever ordering a 4 engine airplane.

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Old 08-25-2008, 11:04 AM
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Originally Posted by Scoop View Post
Carl,
You are correct - "No bump - no flush" is currently just a concept, nothing more. I have seen numerous references to it as if it was already written in our contracts. Until the SLI and related details are finalized it is nothing more than a noble goal.
Regarding the thread title, Cash Reserves, it appears DAL just spent a little more of that cash by increasing the 777LR order by two more - now thats the way to spend your cash.

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All I can say is if they can't achieve "no bump/flush" as a minimum this is going to be one hellacious place to work.
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Old 08-26-2008, 01:17 PM
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DAL current assets $7.167 BIL cash flow for year $600 MIL. NWA current assets $5.24 BIL cash flow for year $ 276 MIL. Its from YAHOO finance and its just the facts, is not about who going to rescue who. Also a Birde told me that not much will change in flying till there is one operating certificate probably about a year from now.
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Old 08-26-2008, 01:55 PM
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That is probably the way that it will end up, but there will be aircraft movement. If there is a way to make a financial argument to move crew they will do it. It is all about the cash savings. I know it is being discussed, but 35K per pilot is a lot of dough. It equates to a training event or so.
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That is probably the way that it will end up, but there will be aircraft movement. If there is a way to make a financial argument to move crew they will do it. It is all about the cash savings. I know it is being discussed, but 35K per pilot is a lot of dough. It equates to a training event or so.
There will be a LOT of ER flying in DTW next summer. There will be a LOT of 747 flying out of ATL next summer. Thee will be a LOT of deadheading next summer.
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I sure hope so.
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