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Carl Spackler 11-24-2008 03:50 PM


Originally Posted by Scoop (Post 505329)
All Americans will sadly remember the day the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor.:) From the number one comedy movie of all time "Animal House." Sorry Carl, "Caddyshack" is number two. And I am not making this up either, they are the official VH-1 Ratings, and we all know how official that is.

Scoop

I agree Scoop, Animal House was as good as it gets.

I also remember that when Bluto gave everyone that history lesson of who bombed Pearl Harbor, it was right after Dean Wormer released Bluto's grade point average of zero point zero.

7 years of college down the drain. :D

Carl

Scoop 11-24-2008 04:03 PM


Originally Posted by tsquare (Post 505350)
And you call yourself an "Airplane" pilot... tsk tsk tsk...

Steve

Hey,
Surely you must realize that Airplane makes my Top 10 list also.

Scoop :)

tsquare 11-24-2008 04:24 PM


Originally Posted by Scoop (Post 505429)
Hey,
Surely you must realize that Airplane makes my Top 10 list also.

Scoop :)

Thanks for the softball... and don't call me Shirley

Steve

Bucking Bar 11-24-2008 04:49 PM

Still makes me laugh, particularly the labels on the magazine rack:

YouTube - Airplane - Funny name confusion

and talking about seniority:

YouTube - Airplane! 2 Dunn, Over, Under

Reroute 11-24-2008 09:00 PM


Originally Posted by Carl Spackler (Post 505312)
No...it's December 8 because that was the start of the war. :eek::D

Carl

"I ask that the Congress declare that since the unprovoked and dastardly attack by Japan on Sunday, December 7th, 1941, a state of war has existed between the United States and the Japanese Empire."

Declared December 8th, a state of war since the attack on December 7th.

Bigflya 11-25-2008 09:34 AM


Originally Posted by Superpilot92 (Post 503132)
You mean like stapling 500 Nwa pilots because the dal pilots portrayed the dc9s as "furlough jets"? Seniority grab off of the backs of your fellow co-workers :cool:

Bottom line is this is out of our hands, January 8th can't get here soon enough so we can get past slot of this drama queen discussions ;)

The DC-9 is a "furlough jet." Your mgmt has told as much by systematically parking them. They are 35+ years old, horribly inefficient, and the flying was quickly being replaced by commuter jets from Mesaba and Compass. Your 787's are coming in who knows when and NWA will not pay to keep hundreds of pilots on the payroll while they waited. You guys rightously made deals to keep as many guys on the property as you could but eventually the numbers would have caught up with you. NWA's old fleet and past commuter jet concessions should not be carried on the backs of the DAL pilot group. When gas skyrocketed, the majority of our cuts came at the commuter level thus saving mainline jobs.

Superpilot92 11-25-2008 09:44 AM


Originally Posted by Bigflya (Post 505793)
The DC-9 is a "furlough jet." Your mgmt has told as much by systematically parking them. They are 35+ years old, horribly inefficient, and the flying was quickly being replaced by commuter jets from Mesaba and Compass. Your 787's are coming in who knows when and NWA will not pay to keep hundreds of pilots on the payroll while they waited. You guys rightously made deals to keep as many guys on the property as you could but eventually the numbers would have caught up with you. NWA's old fleet and past commuter jet concessions should not be carried on the backs of the DAL pilot group. When gas skyrocketed, the majority of our cuts came at the commuter level thus saving mainline jobs.

:rolleyes: Not worth it

Kingbird87 11-25-2008 10:04 AM

That "furlough jet', the DC-9 was probably one of the most innovative decisions NWA management ever made. Instead of buying hundreds of marginally more capable aircraft, they redid the interiors and kept the old bird flying, safely, and cost effectively. When there are zillions of 150 seat MD-80's parked, the DC-9 is still flying. And the executives responsible for that decision populate the inner ring of Delta Airlines as well as several other airlines. The pilots that flew it, and fly it, have better skills that the rest of us that have moved into the technical crutch cockpits. They are not NWA DC-9 pilots. They are Delta Airline pilots that fly the DC-9. When the SLI is completed, and if furloughs are a reality, they will come in reverse seniority order, and not from the "furlough jet". I flew it for 15 years, those of you on this board continually denigrating the DC-9 are clueless. It is our jet, they are paid for, at 100 seats fill a niche that nothing else does. Long may she fly. And if you are junior at the new "Delta", pray it does, and brush up on you cross check, and stick and rudder skills, or it may bite you hard!

johnso29 11-25-2008 10:06 AM


Originally Posted by Bigflya (Post 505793)
The DC-9 is a "furlough jet." Your mgmt has told as much by systematically parking them. They are 35+ years old, horribly inefficient, and the flying was quickly being replaced by commuter jets from Mesaba and Compass. Your 787's are coming in who knows when and NWA will not pay to keep hundreds of pilots on the payroll while they waited. You guys rightously made deals to keep as many guys on the property as you could but eventually the numbers would have caught up with you. NWA's old fleet and past commuter jet concessions should not be carried on the backs of the DAL pilot group. When gas skyrocketed, the majority of our cuts came at the commuter level thus saving mainline jobs.

You really don't have an argument here. If you think you do, you might wanna take a look at the DAL RJ parade in JFK and ATL. Oh, and SLC too. And where's DALs 100 seat mainline airplane? Oh yeah, in the desert. Looks like NWA held on to scope longer. And how many pilots has NWA furloughed since fuel skyrocketed? ZERO! And in regards to the #s catching up to us, we haven't even applied the new staffing formula champ. Therefore, your theory that are furlough mitigations failed, and the merger saved us, is incorrect. Nice argument though, really. :rolleyes:

Superpilot92 11-25-2008 10:20 AM


Originally Posted by johnso29 (Post 505819)
You really don't have an argument here. If you think you do, you might wanna take a look at the DAL RJ parade in JFK and ATL. Oh, and SLC too. And where's DALs 100 seat mainline airplane? Oh yeah, in the desert. Looks like NWA held on to scope longer. Nice argument though, really. :rolleyes:


Its not worth arguing with people like him. They obviously believe that Delta sits beautifully at the end of the rainbow and that NWA brings nothing to the table. The DC9 is the RDs chance at fixing their screwup of letting that flying go. The DC9s and the flying they bring is Mainline flying and its now Delta Mainline flying. The 100 seat market is now the Combined DAL pilots flying and its ours to lose. We are all responsible for ensuring it stays at mainline. OUR scope protects it and should continue to protect it. These planes are especially helpful when fuel is falling, the credit market is swamped making financing harder to come by, and the flexibility to redeploy these aircraft anywhere. They can and will likely take back flying from the regionals. 2 dc9s can move the same people as 2-3 50 seaters. As DAL pulls down capacity they can remove frequency without giving up seats by using the DC9s.

These planes are NOW Delta planes. The sooner the RD side realizes that they are their planes and jobs now, the sooner we can work together to protect that flying from here on out.


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