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Old 09-03-2018, 02:07 PM
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Maybe, we are moving the 700’s there under American colors? Let’s really get a good rumor going.
Is American scoped out? When do our contracts with American expire. Nobody mentioned it but in the quarterly results it was revealed Mesa bought 9 of their leased 900s.
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Is American scoped out? When do our contracts with American expire. Nobody mentioned it but in the quarterly results it was revealed Mesa bought 9 of their leased 900s.
And, they are negotiating to purchase an additional 10. Looks like Mesa is refinancing to boost income.

I don’t see anything that says we are losing any business, or moving any bases. With the pilot shortage, some pilots simply would not make the move to ORD. So, I hope ORD is a non-starter unless we are getting the 25 E175SC’s.

Of course over the past 6 months, besides ATL, I also heard DEN and SFO as possible bases from various pilots. None of these rumors have transpired.

Given the growth that United wants for IAD, and excess gate capacity there, I could see some of our Ejets go there and keeping the 700’s already there. But, everyone tells me we won’t base two different types of aircraft at IAD.
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I would still be surprised about ORD. If you look at our routes, we avoid ORD like the plague. And, JO has been clear he doesn’t want a base there. But, I guess United could give Mesa no choice in the matter given the CPA is expiring.

Maybe, we are moving the 700’s there under American colors? Let’s really get a good rumor going.
Haha to be honest that’s what I heard but the person got the info via eavesdropping and it’s second hand so didn’t want to stoke that fire seemed to unrealistic to me.

I have no idea what AAs scope is they just ordered a bunch of RJs for Envoy and PSA.

Mesa’s stock is also up 15% in a month we aren’t about to lose flying.
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Originally Posted by calmwinds View Post
Given the growth that United wants for IAD, and excess gate capacity there, I could see some of our Ejets go there and keeping the 700’s already there. But, everyone tells me we won’t base two different types of aircraft at IAD.
Why not? It makes the most sense of anything. If the 700s are always full move them to bases where the extra 6 seats don't matter. I don't see United eliminating the 700's unless they just love the Ejet over them but if that's the deal they should have ordered 45 instead of 25. The CRJ may just work well in IAD. How much IAD flying do you do now?
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Why not? It makes the most sense of anything. If the 700s are always full move them to bases where the extra 6 seats don't matter. I don't see United eliminating the 700's unless they just love the Ejet over them but if that's the deal they should have ordered 45 instead of 25. The CRJ may just work well in IAD. How much IAD flying do you do now?
United is scoped out of both 70 and 76 seaters. United’s pilot union has taken United to arbitration over violating the pilot’s agreement when they added two Republic E170’s over the 70 seat cap. So, the 25 E175SC’s were purchased by United to specifically replace 25 CRJ700’s. The speculation is the 25 being replaced are GoJet’s but our CRJ700’s are up for renewal and are the oldest in United’s fleet. But, we only have 20, not 25, CRJ700’s.

I think it will be public who is getting the 25 E175SC’s within the next month or two and then we will know who is losing their CRJ700’s.
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Originally Posted by NovemberBravo View Post
Haha to be honest that’s what I heard but the person got the info via eavesdropping and it’s second hand so didn’t want to stoke that fire seemed to unrealistic to me.

I have no idea what AAs scope is they just ordered a bunch of RJs for Envoy and PSA.

Mesa’s stock is also up 15% in a month we aren’t about to lose flying.
If there is talk of Mesa getting ORD flying, it would make sense that would be in conjunction with the possible addition of some or all of the E175SC’s.

Otherwise, let’s make anything up. I heard we were going to start flying Ejets for Alaska too (in my dreams).
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Originally Posted by Sniper66 View Post
United is looking to buy XJET from SKW and place there the new 25 175s they just ordered. 25 700s will be replaced that are currently operate by SKW... SKW I in talks to place them with Delta
Also in talks to tag all their pilots at the bottom of their seniority list
and as their capacity agreements end of those aircraft they own and lease (175s) to other regionals eventually coming to the XJET operation in the near future
No scope negotiation needed for that
SkyWest just signed a 9 year contract extension on there 700’s...( Only Aspen operator...)
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Why are you saying Mesa is not losing flying? Are they not returning 175s to United in the coming year?
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Why are you saying Mesa is not losing flying? Are they not returning 175s to United in the coming year?
Nope, we do have a CPA up for renewal. That is not the same as the aircraft going back.

Just ask SkyWest if a CPA up for renewal means the aircraft are going back. They just had a CRJ700 CPA renewed by United.
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Originally Posted by Sniper66 View Post
United is looking to buy XJET from SKW and place there the new 25 175s they just ordered. 25 700s will be replaced that are currently operate by SKW... SKW I in talks to place them with Delta
Also in talks to tag all their pilots at the bottom of their seniority list
and as their capacity agreements end of those aircraft they own and lease (175s) to other regionals eventually coming to the XJET operation in the near future
No scope negotiation needed for that
Lol not a chance.
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