Jungedrache

Remember the disclaimer they make at the beginning of those investor calls. They give out information based on current information at hand... it means Mesa has to say the truth and nothing but the truth at that moment, but United is not under such obligation with Mesa or any of their investors, plus things can change from one day to the other... so the things they say or don’t on those calls are to be taken with a grain of salt.

calmwinds

Still will be an investor lawsuit if the United flying is lost. We live in a litigious society where you sue first and ask questions later. JO will have to prove he had reasons for being extremely optimistic. His defense will be -IF- United was actively negotiating with Mesa over the CRJ700 renewal. We are down to around $7.30 per share and falling.

amcnd

Thats why conference calls all start with “safe harbor/forward looking statements”....

calmwinds

Those statements don’t stop lawsuits. They are simply a defense against them. JO couldn’t say Mesa was “very confident” in a baseless way without getting into some hot water. He actually explained on the call that the CRJ700 renewal was tied to some other negotiations. That is the reason I expect the CRJ700’s to be renewed, JO had some basis for his confidence. Either that, he is an idiot or he was played. And, he is not an idiot.

We will all know soon enough.

avi8tor614

Let me explain why this is important. Few days ago three Mesa flights could not launch from DCA to IAH because of low visibility and fog. I was the first flight, another flight was leaving an hour later then a Republic flight, then another flight Mesa flight was scheduled after republic. TAKE A WILD GUESS WHO LAUNCHED FIRST. Republic. I had to explain to my pax why a UAX plane could leave before us. They could see it in there apps. Yes it's pretty freaking important. Republic can go to 1200 with their CAT II. We can only do down to 1600. I assure you United took notice.

NovemberBravo

Are you guys struggling that much with Cat 2?

calmwinds

Mesa is technically defaulting on the Ejet contract.

We can’t get to the required 90% pass rate on the line. I don’t know when the FAA last tried to qualify us.

I hear we fail for a variety of reasons. The pilots don’t check the surface winds against the maximum. That we land on a runway with LAHSO in effect. Our callouts suck. The CA doesn’t make the callouts based on the Baro but the RA. The CA takes over control at the wrong altitude.

The training department wants nothing to do with owning it. So, they claim it isn’t training. And, that is the flight crews not practicing the CAT II’s enough. So, the training department does everything it can to deflect blame instead of everything they can do to make sure we do them right.

I see no priority placed on CAT II’s. Not by training. Not by the line pilots. Mesa seems to have this attitude that we don’t need to do them, so we won’t put in the effort.

Our training is a joke on CAT II’s. We train at a sea level airport in the SIM’s where guys can cheat and use the RA for their callouts. We do single LOFT so the pilots don’t get the flow of preparing for a CAT II. It is left to the line check airman to teach.

Enough said.

calmwinds

Same experience here except it was a different airport and it was ExpressJet pushing earlier than us. The gate agents ask why we can’t push. So, at least the United gate agent supervisors know there is something “wrong” with Mesa.

terks43

Wow, that isn’t that much of a different procedure then the CAT II on the crj side. How on earth can the results be so much different?

calmwinds

One of two possibilities: 1) the training is better on the CRJ side 2) the CRJ pilots would not qualify if put to the test today.