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Old 05-17-2020, 10:26 PM
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They do NOT work.

https://www.acpjournals.org/doi/10.7326/M20-1342
"In conclusion, both surgical and cotton masks seem to be ineffective in preventing the dissemination of SARS–CoV-2 from the coughs of patients with COVID-19 to the environment and external mask surface."


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Data lacking to recommend broad mask use

We do not recommend requiring the general public who do not have symptoms of COVID-19-like illness to routinely wear cloth or surgical masks because:
  • There is no scientific evidence they are effective in reducing the risk of SARS-CoV-2 transmission
  • Their use may result in those wearing the masks to relax other distancing efforts because they have a sense of protection
  • We need to preserve the supply of surgical masks for at-risk healthcare workers.
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Old 05-17-2020, 10:36 PM
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Masks work. They promote confidence. That positive attitude alone improves immune response.
That’s a ridiculous line of thought. “Hey guys, masks don’t really work in the medical, scientific sense that we’ve been hoodwinking the American public. But they DO work by generating positive-touchy-feel good vibes!”

I guess all those folks who got sick or died were just too negative
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Old 05-17-2020, 10:56 PM
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Originally Posted by pangolin View Post
Masks work. They promote confidence. That positive attitude alone improves immune response.
Validating irrational fear builds confidence and fosters a positive attitude?
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Old 05-18-2020, 03:00 AM
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Originally Posted by FuryfromtheSky View Post
That’s a ridiculous line of thought. “Hey guys, masks don’t really work in the medical, scientific sense that we’ve been hoodwinking the American public. But they DO work by generating positive-touchy-feel good vibes!”

I guess all those folks who got sick or died were just too negative
Placebo affect is real. You cherry picked that part of the response but left the rest on the table. Masks don’t cause panic. They give people a positive sense of well being which positively impacts the immune system. It’s not a cure. There’s so much black or white thinking. All or nothing. Masks work. Not perfectly maybe even not much. Maybe only a little. For some people a little matters a lot.

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Old 05-18-2020, 06:18 AM
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They do work, the virus clings to aerosols you expel when you breathe. Yes, the virus itself is extremely small, much smaller than the holes in the masks, but the virus is suspended in much larger objects that do not make it through the mesh. Masks work, and in countries that people wear them, like South Korea, it is under control. So going by your stance, you believe doctors shouldn't wear masks? If they are good for them, they are good for you.
You are being fed lies to free up the mask supply for the medical field. The only thing on my 747 out of China is masks, and we fly empty to Asia just to get them.
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Old 05-18-2020, 06:50 AM
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Originally Posted by FuryfromtheSky View Post
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Others wearing masks instills confidence. Your not wearing them means you are first of all somehow better than those that do. It Is breaking rules and procedure. Even if you don’t believe they work you need to wear it. Do you not follow cockpit procedures that you think are stupid? Maybe you don’t. I don’t expect to change your mind but I hope you see your selfishness and have some empathy for others and get with the program. If you want to still be selfish then consider that instilling public confidence in travel protects your lively hood. Masks work because they keep you working.
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Old 05-18-2020, 08:40 AM
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Finally data lacking means just that. It does not mean they don’t work. It means we don’t know with any scientific certainty.
”data lacking” “ we don’t know”. The same rationale trying to say masks work can be used to say they don’t work at all.

Why don’t you just man the ****** up and admit you don’t know what you’re talking about with this mask BS.
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Old 05-18-2020, 08:51 AM
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Originally Posted by FuryfromtheSky View Post
That’s a ridiculous line of thought. “Hey guys, masks don’t really work in the medical, scientific sense that we’ve been hoodwinking the American public. But they DO work by generating positive-touchy-feel good vibes!”


The confidences, however false, that are inspired filter to the traveling public may be the very thing that save your sorry ass job.
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The confidences, however false, that are inspired filter to the traveling public may be the very thing that save your sorry ass job.
My sorry ass job??? Why do I get the feeling you’re not even one of us? I’ve enjoyed my time here at Mesa so far, even with all this madness going on. OUR jobs wouldn’t be in jeopardy if certain parties hadn’t instilled a panic in the first place and to add insult to injury, now expect us to go along with “false confidences”. STOP THE LIES.
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My sorry ass job??? Why do I get the feeling you’re not even one of us? I’ve enjoyed my time here at Mesa so far, even with all this madness going on. OUR jobs wouldn’t be in jeopardy if certain parties hadn’t instilled a panic in the first place and to add insult to injury, now expect us to go along with “false confidences”. STOP THE LIES.

Agreeddddd I’m excited for Mesa I’m in there cadet program


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