exactly! All these guys at the “good” regionals who have been throwing stones at Mesa, and some others these past few years are about to find out, there’s no such thing as a “good” regional.

People love to trash Mesa. I ride the jumpseat of several different regionals on my commute, and they all do the same job, at the same level. Their pay rates are lower than most, but not by some earth shattering amount. Would it be better to work for Expressjet or Air Wisconsin with what is going on now? When the company says that your entire fleet is going to be a thing of the past, that sounds like a pretty bad spot to be in. Unless there is a rapid V shaped recovery, operators of 50 seat aircraft will be shut down while Mesa survives. When considering where we are now in this industry, there are much bigger downsides than working for Mesa.

Why is it not "doable"....because the contract says so? Desperate times sometimes require adjustments that include out of the box thinking and common sense decisions.

Stop making sense....:)

Yeah, people love to trash Mesa, for good reason. Their pay falls far shorter than other regionals and their work rules absolutely suck. And they've always sought pilots who couldn't make it at other places. Any connection there? That said, lots of great guys/gals there who picked it for a good reason and may be stuck for a while now. And as far as where the industry is now, when the recovery is complete, it will still be the same Mesa with the same issues.

Regional pilots seem to fight among themselves and argue over what company is better. They all stink. It is like walking through a barnyard arguing about the best kind of poo to step in. Most of the regionals were so desperate for pilots the running joke was that all you need is a pulse. A friend of mine applied to a couple of regionals with bases near where he lived. Expressjet gave him a quick Skype interview and he was in class 2 weeks later. One of the guys in his class had washed out of Mesa. According to United, coming out of the recovery, pilots at Mesa will still be at “the same Mesa with the same issues”, while the pilots at a “premier regional” like Expressjet will most likely be unemployed. It may be Mesa, but given the current options, their future looks much better than others.

The union could negotiate a MOU to allow it but there’s no easy facility to decide who wants it and who doesn’t. Oh wait. We do. You bid for it. So if you want it then bid for it.

There’s so much false here. Mesa doesn’t seek out other regional rejects. Work rules are better than sone and worse than some. Middle of the road.

remnd me of some of the crashes these guys who “couldn’t cut it” at Mesa are responsible for?

I have an idea.... if you are so worried about getting sick... get a hotel with your bonus money. If you don’t want to do that drive in every morning and sleep in your car, then drive home. Get a cheap month to month apartment, and sleep in it. You have tons of options.