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normalperson 07-30-2020 09:34 AM


Originally Posted by 20sx (Post 3101793)
We're not even out of the woods for furloughs and we're arguing over hiring!?

hahahaha yep! Like any good pilot, staying ahead of the airplane! ........As it goes down, right down to the ground!

backtoregionals 07-30-2020 07:49 PM

Here’s the answer to the thread title....

NOT ANYTIME SOON, if ever. Around 530 pilots are getting WARN letters. This is only the beginning. They could easily send out more WARN letters each month. NOBODY is safe in this industry right now.

pangolin 07-30-2020 11:17 PM


Originally Posted by backtoregionals (Post 3102274)
Here’s the answer to the thread title....

NOT ANYTIME SOON, if ever. Around 530 pilots are getting WARN letters. This is only the beginning. They could easily send out more WARN letters each month. NOBODY is safe in this industry right now.

Where did you get the 530 number? I doubt it. The will check a required box should the government not offer cares2. Its covering a base. May or may not happen.

pangolin 07-31-2020 07:46 AM


Originally Posted by coodrough568 (Post 3102409)
they always send more WARN notices than actual furloughs. It’s just covering themselves in case it’s actually needed. Rough math from what other companies have done shows that typical furlough numbers are somewhere between 60-62% of the WARN notices sent out

I haven’t seen any authorities source for the number of pilots being issued WARN notices.

kevin18 07-31-2020 07:53 AM

Anyone know the method they’re sending them out?

boxthrower 07-31-2020 09:56 AM


Originally Posted by coodrough568 (Post 3102409)
they always send more WARN notices than actual furloughs. It’s just covering themselves in case it’s actually needed. Rough math from what other companies have done shows that typical furlough numbers are somewhere between 60-62% of the WARN notices sent out

Not true. Republic didn’t even bother sending WARN notices they just went straight to the furlough letters. PSA originally sent 600, planned on 530 furloughs and now they’re up to 730 furloughs. Expressjet sent one to the entire company and now they’re done. I wouldn’t follow that logic right now.

propellere 07-31-2020 10:13 AM


Originally Posted by boxthrower (Post 3102623)
Not true. Republic didn’t even bother sending WARN notices they just went straight to the furlough letters. PSA originally sent 600, planned on 530 furloughs and now they’re up to 730 furloughs. Expressjet sent one to the entire company and now they’re done. I wouldn’t follow that logic right now.

I think a lot of people are in denial. I told the FA last night that WARN Notices are coming today, and they said “Don’t tell me that.” This was an FA with 9 months in. People are hoping for the best, but they should be preparing for the worst.

boxthrower 07-31-2020 10:54 AM


Originally Posted by coodrough568 (Post 3102644)
Republic combined both together, maybe to save money on the first class mail. Also I did not say “it’s guaranteed that 60-62% of WARN recipients are furloughed.” I said that was rough math, based off observations from other airlines. It’s really just a guess, every airline is in deep **** right now. It looks pretty safe to assume a MINIMUM furlough of 20% at every airline that is still standing when this is done.


Well so far it’s 37% at Republic (they did send 933 furlough notices via certified mail, not just email), 35% at PSA, 100% at expressjet, one third of pilots at United, 100% at TSA and Compass (even though that writing was pretty much already on the wall). I’d say the average is going to be a lot higher than 20%


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