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dera 07-27-2020 05:54 PM
Originally Posted by pangolin (Post 3100226)
I wish AW could take the 700s. I don’t relish getting jr assigned to a base like ERW or ORD but I don’t think they can get up to speed with the 700/550 fast enough. Adding it to the certificate is just a small part of the battle. YV could fly them tomorrow. We have excess CRJ 700 qualified pilots on property, current and ready to fly. If GJ pulled the plug Oct 1 YV could step in instantly.
No other carrier could fly them "tomorrow". You need a largeish maintenance operation to conform all of those planes.
I don't know how GJ does maintenance, but from the same owner, when we got TSA's old planes, they were pieces of trash and took forever to get up to spec.

normalperson 07-27-2020 05:56 PM
Haha Pangolin, same thing same time.
I’m just a guessing man on all this but it’s pretty much from the conference call. The haters are gonna hate but JO is in his element right now. Furthermore, again, just guesswork but I don’t believe for a second that we’re going to have a 737 fleet of 2. APC will really lose their minds when that doubles, triples, quadruples or more.

pangolin 07-27-2020 06:11 PM
Originally Posted by dera (Post 3100242)
No other carrier could fly them "tomorrow". You need a largeish maintenance operation to conform all of those planes.
I don't know how GJ does maintenance, but from the same owner, when we got TSA's old planes, they were pieces of trash and took forever to get up to spec.
People smarter than me are working on it. I just get in the plane, check the required items and fly it where I'm told when I'm told and how I'm told. Then I go home.

GA2Jets 07-27-2020 06:28 PM
Originally Posted by normalperson (Post 3100225)
AWAC put 700 on certificate to court UA and stay relevant in the running BUT AW pilots would have to have differences training and landings whereas Mesa can walk into gojets airplanes and fly them tomorrow at no extra cost to Mesa or UA.
If AW ate the cost, which they very well might, and all they had to do was train a some pilots and mechanics on differences, I doubt that would be much of a problem for UA. Maybe they won't get the contract, but if it were so obviously not going to work, they wouldn't waste the time and money.

idlethrust 07-27-2020 06:33 PM
Originally Posted by GA2Jets (Post 3100251)
If AW ate the cost, which they very well might, and all they had to do was train a some pilots and mechanics on differences, I doubt that would be much of a problem for UA. Maybe they won't get the contract, but if it were so obviously not going to work, they wouldn't waste the time and money.
Aw should have done this years ago. Now I think it’s too much too late , trying everything to save a sinking ship.
Those birds are going to Mesa.

pangolin 07-27-2020 06:38 PM
Originally Posted by idlethrust (Post 3100253)
Aw should have done this years ago. Now I think it’s too much too late , trying everything to save a sinking ship.
Those birds are going to Mesa.
Maybe. Don’t rule out Go Jet yet. In the town hall JO said the lease rates for the 700 as 550 were guaranteed by United. He might lease them to himself. Leading to GJ is a win for Mesa financially. Not a win for the pilots but a win. I think the we just keep them talk is because GJ may not survive. If the government continues to prop up the airlines all this changes in Go Jet’s favor.

jcool734 07-27-2020 06:39 PM
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GA2Jets 07-27-2020 06:40 PM
Originally Posted by idlethrust (Post 3100253)
Aw should have done this years ago. Now I think it’s too much too late , trying everything to save a sinking ship.
Those birds are going to Mesa.
We barely had the pilots to staff the 200s we had a few months ago. Even if they had wanted 700s we couldn't fly them anyway. Besides, there is no particular reason to think the ship is sinking.

pangolin 07-27-2020 06:43 PM
Originally Posted by jcool734 (Post 3100260)
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Hope it happens.

itsmytime 07-27-2020 06:48 PM
Originally Posted by GA2Jets (Post 3100251)
If AW ate the cost, which they very well might, and all they had to do was train a some pilots and mechanics on differences, I doubt that would be much of a problem for UA. Maybe they won't get the contract, but if it were so obviously not going to work, they wouldn't waste the time and money.
exactly. Someone “encouraged” AWAC mgmt to make this move. They didn’t do it as a shot in the dark hoping for a miracle.


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