LOA 12-09.....go look it up. Read very closely paragraph 3.b.....I highly doubt JO wants to lose the United contract.

i wouldn’t be calling people liars and spreading fake news when you yourself are mis informed.

I call it as I see on the lying.
JO or Mesa won’t be losing any UA flying. 1 million percent guarantee we wont be losing any flying because some UA hack (you) thinks they have rights to our pilot seats.
If any UA Pilot is allowed to fly with us it will be because our MEC and UA pilot group has come to a current gentlemen’ agreement.
PM me and I’ll give you his email. Take your idle threats up with him.

What’s in the contract that makes you sure. I’m a cadet that’s why I’m asking.


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already quoted it above LOA 12-09. Just google the United UPA it comes up as LOA 11 when you google it.

damn your angry! Go read it for yourself I told you where to look.

I don’t need to read it. I know the answer. My CEO already answered it for me. Why not ask him yourself, I’ve offered his email? Good luck!

I'm still stuck back on page 2 where it was claimed that current employees who were furloughed would be required to sign a new employment contract without bonuses to return to work. I could see where a new hire going forward wouldn't see a bonus but for the 70 or so pilots with signed bonus contracts that were furloughed from training??? I don't see how the company gets out of that or how any current pilot on the line wouldn't see that as a huge threat if the company starts telling employees sign or die?

Thats an unsubstantiated rumor.

nlrfireman, don’t listen to Master of Muppets. He sounds more like the Master of Tools. That letter of agreement only existed back when the 9/11 furlough took place. It was a negotiation to relieve scope in exchange for hiring United mainline pilots. This “Letter of Agreement” that he is referring isn’t valid anymore. If it were to be used again, it would require MAGMEC approval. I don’t know why a big dog United Pilot would want anything to do with a regional. I thought they were better than a regional pilot, especially Mesa? Mesa only hires DUI pilots, multiple checkride failures, and people that don’t know how to fly. Maybe they could come in a show us how to fly the CRJ or Ejet? I’ll go get a blue United rug and put in the jet bridge when they come onboard.

so the LOA is still active in the United Contract. It has been referenced by the Inited MEC. I don’t know why you choose not to believe it but it’s right there plain as day if you would just look where I told you to look. It was signed the 18th of DEC 2012, so it’s clearly newer than whatever agreement you are referencing after 9/11.

as to why I care? Because we are about to furlough and our pilots need jobs.

just because you choose not to look at it doesn’t mean it doesn’t exist. As I said before read paragraph 3.b very closely.....WE as in The UNITED MEC control scope not Mesa, not JO, not the Mesa MEC and certainly not Mesa pilots. If JO wants to die on this sword he is welcome too and if the pilots who hire want to take the approach of not hiring furloughed pilots then the group can deal with the fall out.