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Old 11-18-2020 | 01:34 AM
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Originally Posted by boeingdvr
HA- you got JO’ed- and not the good kind.
It won’t matter. December will be our crater month on the AA side. It’s already flying apart in November. We don’t have enough operational aircraft to service the flying we have been assigned. Furloughs come January. Watch.
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Old 11-18-2020 | 02:08 AM
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We are short staffed because of Covid. Pilots are pulled offline for exposure and that’s happening more. We need double or triple the pre Covid reserves. Pairings are hugely inefficient still. Sure a third can get over 76 hour lines but that’s it. Did you see the 12 hour 4 days trips? Come January an extension to the MOU will not be requested. It’ll be straight furlough. Or it will be requested knowing we will deny it - then it’ll be furlough. No way it’s avoided.
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Old 11-18-2020 | 02:45 AM
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furlough process may begin in January with very junior pilots but displacement bids, actual furlough numbers, base and equipment transfers, retraining, downgrades, base moving reimbursements all have to happen before the “big one”

iad pilots are schedules all the way out to April for equipment transfers

Originally Posted by pangolin
We are short staffed because of Covid. Pilots are pulled offline for exposure and that’s happening more. We need double or triple the pre Covid reserves. Pairings are hugely inefficient still. Sure a third can get over 76 hour lines but that’s it. Did you see the 12 hour 4 days trips? Come January an extension to the MOU will not be requested. It’ll be straight furlough. Or it will be requested knowing we will deny it - then it’ll be furlough. No way it’s avoided.
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Old 11-18-2020 | 06:15 AM
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Originally Posted by backtoregionals
Yep. These idiots who voted yes fell right into management’s trap, and pulled the rest of the pilot group with them. We have 10 new EJETs online and started up a 737 operation, but hey we needed to take a pay cut to save the company! Common sense is non-existent in 58% of this pilot group.
Wow, I couldn't have said it better!
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Old 11-18-2020 | 06:19 AM
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Originally Posted by pangolin
We are short staffed because of Covid. Pilots are pulled offline for exposure and that’s happening more. We need double or triple the pre Covid reserves. Pairings are hugely inefficient still. Sure a third can get over 76 hour lines but that’s it. Did you see the 12 hour 4 days trips? Come January an extension to the MOU will not be requested. It’ll be straight furlough. Or it will be requested knowing we will deny it - then it’ll be furlough. No way it’s avoided.
I'm targeting 84 hours credit for December bid.

How have your lines been lately, Pangolin?
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Old 11-18-2020 | 06:44 AM
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Originally Posted by treefiddy
I have reports from others they were also getting denied. All current and qual’d with no AQP due.
I'm pretty sure the more senior pilots aren't denied.

That's where the company saves most ca$$$h!
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Old 11-18-2020 | 06:58 AM
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If you pull up the reserve grid you’ll find out why. COVID is hitting the pilot group hard right now. Lots of crew members being taken off line both for having COVID and being exposed to a crew member that has it. It’s not fake news. It’s real, it’s here, and it’s spreading like an out of control wildfire right now and will continue to do so for the foreseeable future. Just pray it doesn’t destroy travel demand, again, because current spread rates are by far the highest the country has seen yet. And it’s only going up.
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Old 11-18-2020 | 10:36 AM
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Originally Posted by pangolin
It won’t matter. December will be our crater month on the AA side. It’s already flying apart in November. We don’t have enough operational aircraft to service the flying we have been assigned. Furloughs come January. Watch.
I couldn’t agree more.
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Old 11-18-2020 | 11:26 AM
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Originally Posted by mjpilot
I'm targeting 84 hours credit for December bid.

How have your lines been lately, Pangolin?
That’s crazy. Meanwhile, a lot of us are making min guarantee. Wtf?
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Old 11-18-2020 | 11:41 AM
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Originally Posted by OnFingers12345
That’s crazy. Meanwhile, a lot of us are making min guarantee. Wtf?
You guys voted it in, deal with it!

You took my hours away, I'm simply putting them back in.
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