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Nojo1906 10-06-2022 10:15 AM


Originally Posted by ILS6 (Post 3507426)
Going through training here now and don’t have any real complaints. Nice people in HR and the training department. The pay is really nice and you’ll fly here (close to 90 hours a month) which ultimately gets you to wherever you’re end goal airline is. Some may say this is still the “honeymoon” stage but I have no complaints here and would definitely recommend Mesa if the bases work for you.


hope all is well. Any advice for the new hires that’s starting in the next couple of months?

DispatchCat 10-06-2022 10:17 AM

Is it though?
 

Originally Posted by pangolin (Post 3507666)
Thats wildly inaccurate. The mesa insurance and rates are identical to psa and better tha sun country. Less expensive.

employee plus family is $881.50 per paycheck for the premium PPO plan with UMR with Mesa Airlines.

perhaps you are on the employee only value A or value b program?

ILS6 10-06-2022 03:13 PM


Originally Posted by Nojo1906 (Post 3507698)
hope all is well. Any advice for the new hires that’s starting in the next couple of months?

Study mostly the systems and limitations they sent you for whatever aircraft you’ll be on especially if this is your first jet/type rating. Don’t stress to much or look to far down the road of your training footprint otherwise you may feel overwhelmed. Prepare to be out here about 2 months with 5 days on/2 off.. If you have any specific or additional questions don’t hesitate to reach out.

gomissedagain 10-06-2022 03:17 PM


Originally Posted by ILS6 (Post 3507854)
Study mostly the systems and limitations they sent you for whatever aircraft you’ll be on especially if this is your first jet/type rating. Don’t stress to much or look to far down the road of your training footprint otherwise you may feel overwhelmed. Prepare to be out here about 2 months with 5 days on/2 off.. If you have any specific or additional questions don’t hesitate to reach out.

Are you doing CRJ? If so, do you know how long to expect to be there for ERJ? Meaning are they still behind? Sending everyone home after the first 4-5 weeks?

ILS6 10-06-2022 03:36 PM


Originally Posted by gomissedagain (Post 3507857)
Are you doing CRJ? If so, do you know how long to expect to be there for ERJ? Meaning are they still behind? Sending everyone home after the first 4-5 weeks?

I’m EJet, they say there is no delay predicted for us and I’m inclined to believe them due to the new pay rates and I’m sure they don’t want us to sit at home collecting that money. The hotel is full of people being brought back in to finish up and they’re from all different hire dates stretching as far back as March 2022. Anything could happen like a sim going down or instructor leaving but so far everything seems on track for new hires.

20sx 10-06-2022 03:39 PM


Originally Posted by pangolin (Post 3506261)
Skywest is roughly 4 times the size of Mesa. (Arguably more stable). QOL varies but I can’t say one is better than the other. Mesa will build time faster. Mesa is significantly more money. 401Ks are within a percentage point or two. Don’t discount the 10.00/hr. That’s 760 a month more minimum and easily much more. You will probably credit 85-95 a month so that’s 850-950 a month more. Nearly 10,000 a year.

A 737 type rating is obtainable at Mesa and the 73 is no longer senior. Aviate is no joke.

If you get Aviate and keep your nose clean, you won't need to build time fast. Believe me, 90 solid hours a month gets old real quick. Mesa has virtually no soft time, no work rules. Is Skywest's work rules better, I'd at least look into it. The hotels at Mesa were getting better when I left, but they were still normally as close to the airport as they could get.

And the dirty secret....flying the 737 absolutely stinks. The e-jet is much better and pays the same.

dashtwo 10-06-2022 05:59 PM

Can anyone share what the different medical plans for Mesa are? Surely there is a cheap HDHP w/ HSA or something? I'd just be looking for a disaster plan... I'll pay Dr. visits etc. out of pocket.

Nojo1906 10-06-2022 07:11 PM


Originally Posted by ILS6 (Post 3507854)
Study mostly the systems and limitations they sent you for whatever aircraft you’ll be on especially if this is your first jet/type rating. Don’t stress to much or look to far down the road of your training footprint otherwise you may feel overwhelmed. Prepare to be out here about 2 months with 5 days on/2 off.. If you have any specific or additional questions don’t hesitate to reach out.

thanks for the reply and info! Glad to hear no serious delays.

pangolin 10-07-2022 07:02 AM


Originally Posted by DispatchCat (Post 3507700)
employee plus family is $881.50 per paycheck for the premium PPO plan with UMR with Mesa Airlines.

perhaps you are on the employee only value A or value b program?

You have to compare apples to apples. The other regionals don’t have anything like the premium ppo plan. So you can’t compare the rates.

pangolin 10-07-2022 07:08 AM


Originally Posted by Str8 Cash Homie (Post 3507392)
Oh the little Mesa recruiter bltch “pangolin” forgot to mention that? Oops!

Don’t worry though, the extra $760 minimum straight cash number Boy Wonder pulled directly out of his ass will make up for it.

It’s not made up money. You don’t have to take the gold standard medical plan. Mesa is 10 an hour over every other regional and neatly every other airline. What other airline starts higher? And it’s 76 hours min guarantee. That’s 760 a month more. How’s that a made up number?

Post the rates of the premium plan at other airlines equivalent to the premium ppo. Then we can have a rational conversation.

And I’m not a recruiter bltch.


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