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Originally Posted by Iowa Farm Boy
(Post 1110314)
How could they terminate you if you're already working somewhere else?
But if you accept recall and no-show the class date they can consider your employment to have resumed when class convened. Then they can fire you for not being where are supposed to be...which will show up on PRIA. Pretty sketchy, but definitely within the realm of possibility with mesa. |
Originally Posted by rickair7777
(Post 1110487)
If you don't respond to a recall offer, you will lose your recall rights. In that case your employment will have ended when you were furloughed, and they obviously cannot associate any adverse conditions with furlough.
But if you accept recall and no-show the class date they can consider your employment to have resumed when class convened. Then they can fire you for not being where are supposed to be...which will show up on PRIA. Pretty sketchy, but definitely within the realm of possibility with mesa. I think it pretty sketchy to accept recall and then no show. |
It will be interesting to see how many show for the January 9th class of the 24 scheduled. Can somebody please keep us posted if you might be there or have information on it?
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Originally Posted by rickair7777
(Post 1110487)
If you don't respond to a recall offer, you will lose your recall rights. In that case your employment will have ended when you were furloughed, and they obviously cannot associate any adverse conditions with furlough.
But if you accept recall and no-show the class date they can consider your employment to have resumed when class convened. Then they can fire you for not being where are supposed to be...which will show up on PRIA. Pretty sketchy, but definitely within the realm of possibility with mesa. |
Originally Posted by Fly IFR
(Post 1110583)
It will be interesting to see how many show for the January 9th class of the 24 scheduled. Can somebody please keep us posted if you might be there or have information on it?
Show numbers will not be known until 1/24 when the drug test results come back. |
Originally Posted by BarbieTrash
(Post 1110824)
They can't fire you because you never would have taken or passed a DOT drug test therefore you never could be employed and they can't fire you. PRIA would never even come in to play.
If you want to take it to court, you might win with this strategy, maybe. However, your possible victory in court may ring hollow when you think about all the airlines that didn't hire you . . . you'll never know, was it you, or your PRIA? I hope nobody would actually consider their PRIA safe b/c of something an anonymous poster wrote on the internet. In the mean time, if you're so unprofessional as to try to employ the 'I no-showed the class after I told the company I wanted to come back' strategy, please consider the pilot junior to you, on the street, who needs this recall badly. |
Originally Posted by Sniper
(Post 1111004)
In the mean time, if you're so unprofessional as to try to employ the 'I no-showed the class after I told the company I wanted to come back' strategy, please consider the pilot junior to you, on the street, who needs this recall badly.
I know some folks who have said yes, but have no intention of coming back, and have gotten class dates already. Management/HR stopped short of assigning classes to the bottom guys on the last recall list because they think they've "filled" the classes; sorry but no, they haven't as they'll find out when these guys don't show up on the appointed day. I'd love to get a letter and a class date, but as long as people are playing these games it's going to be later rather than sooner for me and others waiting to go back to work. |
Thank you!
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You will no doubt get your recall letter...be ready for it. I know of at least 10 - 15 pilots accepted and not returning for sure...
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Originally Posted by BarbieTrash
(Post 1110824)
They can't fire you because you never would have taken or passed a DOT drug test therefore you never could be employed and they can't fire you. PRIA would never even come in to play.
When they get a PRIA request down the road they can return it indicating that you were fired for unauthorized absence. The exact legality is somewhat questionable but don't put it past them. I actually suspect they would win if you sued them but either way you will have lost one or more job opportunities which you will never get back. I'm not saying don't do it, just something to consider. But the guy who actually WANTS to get recalled to mesa for reasons which are beyond me has a good point...in addition to jerking mesa around you are also jerking some pilots around. |
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