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Old 03-19-2014 | 10:04 AM
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I flew forAloha. So I have some perspective. Aloha killed itself. Bad management and old equipment. If a wacko can bring in 3x50 seat planes and put you out of business. Shows your business was run very badly.
If I was a Mesa board member I would fire JO for all the money wasted in this operation. How it's not criminal? I will never understand.
Yeah.... So Hawaiian now has run of the whole area... this should be interesting
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Old 03-19-2014 | 10:39 AM
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Heard a rumor that Allegiant may attempt to start inter-island with 175's?? I'm sure it's a silly one, but curious if anyone else has heard this..??
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Old 03-19-2014 | 07:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Beaver Hunter
If a wacko can bring in 3x50 seat planes and put you out of business. Shows your business was run very badly.
This is what many ex-Aloha employees fail to grasp (I know many that do, however). The problem is that 3x CRJ200s wasn't going to do a thing to either HAL or AAL if they simply ignored it (150 seats was something like 4% of the market's capacity at the time, if not less). If go! then brought in more airplanes to build market share with cheap fares they would only increase the bleeding while HAL and AAL would have cut back operations until MAG bled itself dry. The fact that HAL piled on to the cheap fares followed by AAL (backed into the corner by HAL) is what drove AAL out of business.

Both MAG and HAL viewed AAL as weak (which it was, though it was not unsustainable), while HAL would have received bad exposure for having initiated a fare war itself they were more than happy to pile on to AAL and drive them out of the market. From there go! (with all the negative press it would attract for having started the fare ware and "hurt" the locals), Island Air and Mokulele would be nothing compared to the behemoth that HAL became as soon as AAL was gone.
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Old 03-21-2014 | 06:16 PM
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Like with sheep. The wolfs eat the weak ones.
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Old 03-21-2014 | 10:28 PM
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Like with sheep. The wolfs eat the weak ones.










In my neck of the woods, the "wolves" do the same thing...
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Old 03-22-2014 | 08:50 AM
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I was referring to the Steven Wolfs of the world. Didn't feel he deserved a capital W for his name. Seeing as he was a real scumbag.
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