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Stratapilot 04-06-2016 07:01 AM


Originally Posted by airflight999 (Post 2104094)
Lose weight and improve your airline QOL with this ONE WEIRD TRICK!

HAHA I thought the EXACT same thing...

MrStl 04-06-2016 08:45 AM


Originally Posted by Blackwing (Post 2104089)
Doesn't hurt at all, we're losing people to the majors in droves. So much so that even with 80 newhires starting every month, we're barely keeping up with attrition.

Where are you getting 80 new hires from? That is pretty good since many regionals can't get 10. I can understand Skywest getting guys and maybe Envoy and PSA but where are they all coming from? Is everyone just going from one regional to another?

Five93H 04-06-2016 08:52 AM


Originally Posted by MrStl (Post 2104309)
Where are you getting 80 new hires from? That is pretty good since many regionals can't get 10. I can understand Skywest getting guys and maybe Envoy and PSA but where are they all coming from? Is everyone just going from one regional to another?

Endeavor is 50-60/month. Not sure about others.

stanthecaddy 04-06-2016 09:20 AM


Originally Posted by MrStl (Post 2104309)
Where are you getting 80 new hires from? That is pretty good since many regionals can't get 10. I can understand Skywest getting guys and maybe Envoy and PSA but where are they all coming from? Is everyone just going from one regional to another?

The hype about the "pilot shortage" is way overblown obviously. New hires keep rolling in magically.

Edgecrusher28 04-06-2016 09:35 AM


Originally Posted by stanthecaddy (Post 2104338)
The hype about the "pilot shortage" is way overblown obviously. New hires keep rolling in magically.

My thoughts exactly; however, there has to be something going on here. What would be behind the spike in pay, bonuses, etc. for the regional side?

bradthepilot 04-06-2016 09:54 AM


Originally Posted by Edgecrusher28 (Post 2104344)
My thoughts exactly; however, there has to be something going on here. What would be behind the spike in pay, bonuses, etc. for the regional side?

...not to mention the amazingly relaxed requirements for applying at some places. 25 hours of multi is only 10-15 hours beyond earning the rating itself.

iFlyRC 04-06-2016 10:27 AM

Its not the pilot shortage at the regional level, it's 10 years from now, you better have your foot in the door somewhere in the 121 world.
Theres tons of people who left aviation a long time ago who now see an opportunity to get back into it and get current again. I fly with them every day. Even friends of mine who left and started small businesses are coming back into aviation.

tinman1 04-06-2016 12:19 PM


Originally Posted by bradthepilot (Post 2104354)
...not to mention the amazingly relaxed requirements for applying at some places. 25 hours of multi is only 10-15 hours beyond earning the rating itself.

I can remember being lectured both as a student in flight school and as a single engine CFI that I would never get hred at any regional with less than 100 hours multi time. It was the hot ticket just a few years ago and according to some would never change. Ever.

"Gotta get that multi bro or you'll b a career CFI..."

And yet here we are. My new hire FO sim partner in the 175 here at Mesa has a whopping 25 hours of multi time and is not an MEI.

MrStl 04-07-2016 07:07 PM


Originally Posted by Five93H (Post 2104319)
Endeavor is 50-60/month. Not sure about others.

So 50 to 60 at Endeavor, 100 at Skywest (65 CRJ and 35 ERJ), 80 at Mesa. What about PSA, Envoy, Expressjet, etc? I know TSA and Compass are getting 40 to 50 and Gojet is getting 4 or 5.Any other real numbers?

HighFlight 04-07-2016 07:11 PM

I'd go with 50. I haven't seen a class over 25 yet. 60 is a goal, but to my knowledge, hasn't been met yet.


Originally Posted by Five93H (Post 2104319)
Endeavor is 50-60/month. Not sure about others.



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