What's the process to even establish a stop loss for active duty? How long could it be in effect? I know the reserves had one last year (at least for pilots) but it was maybe only a year long.


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Stop Loss?? Good luck! Gen Everhart is bluffing, or needs to be tested for smoking crack.

They will get pummeled by Congress if they try it. Never mind the long term effects that will overshadow the near-term "success" in keeping pilots.

That depends. Congress will answer to the biggest voting block that screams loudest. Stop loss-ing a relatively small group like pilots doesn't really matter that much to the average citizen unless it affects them directly. Congress will tell the average taxpayer that it's in the name of national security and that will be that. As far as a shortage of crew on the airline side it's all about fares and flight availability. Average person will say safety all the way until it effects their ability to travel either through cost or flight availability. That's where the pressure on the current "1500 hour rule" will continue come from.

What effect (if any) does Stop Loss have on ARC members? Would a TR suddenly not be able to go IRR or simply quit? I realize that AD members simply cannot get out until the Stop Loss is over...anyone have experience with being a part timer care to share?

Yeah, so I went from being a TR pilot to a category E reservist (non flying and points only). I couldn't switch over to that last year until after November 1 because of a stop loss in ARC... I don't even know when it started and the only reason I knew about it was because it delayed my transition to category E last April.


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That wasn't even a "real" stop loss. That was all based on a bs "loss management" memo put out by the AFRC/CC. I'd expect those types of shenanigans to continue.

True... but it kept myself and others from being able to switch over. Pulled the wool over everyone's eyes- no one even questioned the seriousness of that memo. Funny how that works!


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It was pretty "real" to our separating status-changing TRs during that year. The use of "stop loss" nomenclature might sound wonky in the context of a TR, especially when viewed from AD eyes, but it was real nonetheless.

Oh and btw....IT'S BACK! We just got the memo for this year. November 1st, retro to April 1st for affected dates in status change. I.e. Those with retire papers/transfers before 1 April will be allowed to go through. Otherwise, the ARPC office is gone fishin' for you until 1 Nove. Yeah buddy!

Trust me, I know. I was one of those transitioning TRs. No concern whatsoever from leadership from the squadron level on up. I had a couple replies from my senior senator, but that stopped when she consulted some senate liaison who told her it was all on the up and up. Bottom line, I think the AF can do this and no one will care except those affected. Take care of number 1 folks. No one is looking out for you. Doing the right thing by your people went by the wayside a while ago in the AF

Btw, actual Stop Loss can only be declared by the POTUS and/or be delegated to SECDEF. "Loss Management" memos and the like are total BS.