Originally Posted by Tanker-driver
(Post 2341193)
Btw, actual Stop Loss can only be declared by the POTUS and/or be delegated to SECDEF. "Loss Management" memos and the like are total BS.
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Not Yet
Apparently Stop Loss isn't an option (right now).
Stop Loss is not and option. |
Originally Posted by C130driver
(Post 2333889)
There are some blue koolaid drunk senior leaders *cough cough* my old commander that scoff at the guard/reserves. They think less of them. They don't realize that at the end of the day, we on active duty and the guard/reserves provide the same product to national defense. Heck, some even do it full time!
My solution for this pilot crisis? Increase utilization of the guard/reserves. Boost up AGR slots, etc. As rapidly as I want to bail active duty myself along with many of my peers will happily continue serving in the guard/reserves while starting our careers at airlines....2 cents Also, many flying units are losing or have lost their ARTs to the airlines and I hear many units can't fill open AGR slots. So many dudes/dudettes are completely sick of Big Blue, they dont want full-time guard/reserve jobs. Heck, I know 5 part-time AFRC pilots (I am one) that recently quit their flying jobs for non-flying 2-day a month jobs or Academy Liaison Officer or Civil Air Patrol jobs. Even as part-timers flying 4 to 6 days a month, we are tired of the Air Force B.S. I also know 2 active-duty IPs that just got hired by the airlines and they want nothing to do with the guard/reserve. Once airline/FedEx/UPS pilots hit second year pay, the guard/reserve becomes a pay-cut and with that pay-cut, the B.S. tolerance drops immensely. So, increasing guard/reserve utilization will not work. |
Second year pay at UPS on Sept 1 2020 will be $191.00. 81 hours month guarantee. Do the math. Why would guys stay unless you just like having your whole worth as a pilot and officer based on the size of your waist. The Air Force generals are a bunch of Dumb Dumbs. Don't feed the Dumb Dumbs by wasting your time in the reserves. I spent over 25 years in the reserves and its just not worth it fellas.
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AFRC 2017 Loss Management Procedure was signed on 3 Apr. All the same rules as last year. Can't seem to upload it for some reason
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Originally Posted by Lurking
(Post 2342724)
AFRC 2017 Loss Management Procedure was signed on 3 Apr. All the same rules as last year. Can't seem to upload it for some reason
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Originally Posted by Merle Dixon
(Post 2342350)
Unfortunately the guard and reserve is short pilots too. After 9/11 and until recently guard/reserve units were chock full of O-4s serving their max 24 years and O-5s serving 26 years+. Most of these guys/gals were airline furloughed after 9/11 and they hung onto their guard/reserve safety blanket. Well, all of those folks have or are retiring. The next generation, guys like me; we left active duty and got an airline job, we have never been furloughed and we are not staying in the guard/reserve one second past 20 years.
Also, many flying units are losing or have lost their ARTs to the airlines and I hear many units can't fill open AGR slots. So many dudes/dudettes are completely sick of Big Blue, they dont want full-time guard/reserve jobs. Heck, I know 5 part-time AFRC pilots (I am one) that recently quit their flying jobs for non-flying 2-day a month jobs or Academy Liaison Officer or Civil Air Patrol jobs. Even as part-timers flying 4 to 6 days a month, we are tired of the Air Force B.S. I also know 2 active-duty IPs that just got hired by the airlines and they want nothing to do with the guard/reserve. Once airline/FedEx/UPS pilots hit second year pay, the guard/reserve becomes a pay-cut and with that pay-cut, the B.S. tolerance drops immensely. So, increasing guard/reserve utilization will not work. |
Originally Posted by tunes
(Post 2342784)
That means a TR pilot can't leave their position until after the fiscal year? can a TR still transfer to an IMA position? I thought the last one was you just cant go to a Cat E position, but not sure.
For me, last year, it meant I couldn't go to a Cat E program until 1 Nov last year. I heard it was also successful in stopping guys from quitting or retiring altogether until that date hit but I'm not sure about this year. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk |
Originally Posted by C130driver
(Post 2342952)
Damn, I would think guys would want the security blanket incase a 9/11 times a million or economic downturn happens. If furloughed, it would be nice to have a flying job to fall back on..
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I love this thread. Spade callers one and all! It's nice(I mean sad really) to know that all this madness I see in the Army is going on in the AF too. The Army could stop alienating their pilots for FREE, but instead their planned solution is just to increase the throughput of initial training at Ft Rucker. "Nothing to see here folks! move along. No pilot shortage here!" Said General Peterson before the Armed services Committee a couple weeks ago. He said the will 'consider' a bonus for IPs and MTPs next year. Pro tip for you, Sir: It's not the money.
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