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nfnsquared 10-02-2017 08:26 AM

Vrrad
 
Retired Air Force pilots welcomed back on active duty

https://content.govdelivery.com/accounts/USDODAF/bulletins/1bab3ce

The VRRAD has been approved since July 11, first I've heard of it.

Wow... But guess I can't say I'm totally surprised...

Castle Bravo 10-02-2017 12:57 PM

So lemme get this straight...

"We are CRITICALLY undermanned in pilots AF-wide..." so we'll take 25 people back on AD. Wow, a whole 25 dudes.
Let's see...just CONUS we have SOCOM, CENTCOM, STRATCOM, NORTHCOM, & TRANSCOM. Then there is ACC, AMC, GSC, AETC, AFPC, & AFMC.
Assuming only non-joint billets get filled, that's like 2 dudes/dudettes per staff...whew, glad we're making a difference!

Oh, and my favorite..."You can't fly, but you have to get a Class II flying physical."

Only AFPC can screw up an Anvil with a rubber mallet. Oh, and Security Forces.

nfnsquared 10-21-2017 12:40 PM


Originally Posted by Castle Bravo (Post 2439994)
So lemme get this straight...

"We are CRITICALLY undermanned in pilots AF-wide..." so we'll take 25 people back on AD. Wow, a whole 25 dudes.
Let's see...just CONUS we have SOCOM, CENTCOM, STRATCOM, NORTHCOM, & TRANSCOM. Then there is ACC, AMC, GSC, AETC, AFPC, & AFMC.
Assuming only non-joint billets get filled, that's like 2 dudes/dudettes per staff...whew, glad we're making a difference!

Oh, and my favorite..."You can't fly, but you have to get a Class II flying physical."

Only AFPC can screw up an Anvil with a rubber mallet. Oh, and Security Forces.


Well, looks like the 25 was set by law, not AFPC. And now the number is up to 1,000:

https://www.cnbc.com/2017/10/21/trum...ed-pilots.html

VandalF16 10-21-2017 01:20 PM

Given that it reads like a **** deal, why would anyone, let alone 1000 pilots, take AFPC up on this?

Sputnik 10-21-2017 02:12 PM


Originally Posted by VandalF16 (Post 2451849)
Given that it reads like a **** deal, why would anyone, let alone 1000 pilots, take AFPC up on this?

Cause it doesnt have to be voluntary.

Grumble 10-21-2017 06:48 PM

Sounds like there is a critical over demand for bloated staffs.... maybe start there.

Glad you enjoyed your retirement. You're going to be the COS for Gen Nobodycares in easteran crapistan. Oh and if you don't perform we'll admin sep you and say good bye to your retirement.

VandalF16 10-22-2017 05:54 AM


Originally Posted by Sputnik (Post 2451880)
Cause it doesnt have to be voluntary.

At this point it is, but I agree this is the first step towards the AF making it involuntary. Strange decision if they do though, it won't fix the problem and the CSAF understands this. Publicly he says the AF won't stop loss, but this seems like a slightly different way of doing just that in the near term.

nfnsquared 10-23-2017 03:36 PM

https://www.usnews.com/news/politics...o-fix-shortage

hindsight2020 10-23-2017 03:53 PM


Originally Posted by nfnsquared (Post 2453084)

There ya go boys, all is well. Back to counting your pro-sharing checks and kvetching about green slips :D

kc135pirate 10-24-2017 03:20 AM


Originally Posted by VandalF16 (Post 2452125)
At this point it is, but I agree this is the first step towards the AF making it involuntary. Strange decision if they do though, it won't fix the problem and the CSAF understands this. Publicly he says the AF won't stop loss, but this seems like a slightly different way of doing just that in the near term.



The problem with stop loss is that they have to provide congress with a plan to end the stop loss program. Since they have been unsuccessful so far in any of those efforts, they would have a tough time justifying it to congress. This also assumes congress is doing their job [emoji57]


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