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Mundergun 11-15-2017 07:29 AM

It seems like it might not be worth the hassle I guess. 27 year old army 1LT. I think going to UPT wouldn’t be horrible though since I’m already a civilian fixed wing guy. Plus I’ll be starting at a WO regional here in a few months so if I left for UPT my seniority/flow would advance while at UPT.

BeatNavy 11-15-2017 08:32 AM


Originally Posted by Mundergun (Post 2466540)
It seems like it might not be worth the hassle I guess. 27 year old army 1LT. I think going to UPT wouldn’t be horrible though since I’m already a civilian fixed wing guy. Plus I’ll be starting at a WO regional here in a few months so if I left for UPT my seniority/flow would advance while at UPT.

Depends what you consider worth it. Years of rushing, thousands of dollars, cumulatively took over a month away from my family rushing units while having 11 days off at a regional. Worth it to me to fly fast jets. Doable, just not easy. But if it were easy everyone would do it. I know some who got lucky and didn’t spend that much time rushing units. And it is a huge hassle...after getting hired it’s still MEPS (depending how you do it), FC1, and a crap ton of other admin/paperwork stuff, time, and dealing with ANG/AFRES recruiters who don’t seem to be on any sort of timeline, all before redoing initial pilot training and all the fun that entails. Haven’t talked to anyone who made the transition, put up with all that, and then said it wasn’t worth it, though.

pony172 11-15-2017 04:02 PM

To the OP, you already have a regional job to get FW hours that can take you to the majors. I understand wanting to go the fighter route, it is once in a lifetime. But hear this out. Go fly RPA's in the Guard. We have transferred 2 Army rotorheads so far in our unit. No UPT required, we don't deploy and it is all the title 10 that you can stomach. We have a ton of airline guys and it is a great network to use to get hired. It is still the AF and can be a pain in the ass at times, but not a bad way to finish 20.

rickair7777 11-15-2017 04:55 PM


Originally Posted by pony172 (Post 2466927)
To the OP, you already have a regional job to get FW hours that can take you to the majors. I understand wanting to go the fighter route, it is once in a lifetime. But hear this out. Go fly RPA's in the Guard. We have transferred 2 Army rotorheads so far in our unit. No UPT required, we don't deploy and it is all the title 10 that you can stomach. We have a ton of airline guys and it is a great network to use to get hired. It is still the AF and can be a pain in the ass at times, but not a bad way to finish 20.

"I am your father... "

ipdanno 11-15-2017 06:47 PM


Originally Posted by rickair7777 (Post 2466952)
"I am your father... "

That was good! 👿👹💀

pony172 11-16-2017 04:27 PM

It is the darkside!

Mundergun 11-16-2017 05:24 PM


Originally Posted by rickair7777 (Post 2466952)
"I am your father... "

That’s actually pretty interesting Is there some sort of an interactive map or etc showing locations of units and etc? It does seem like possibly a good way to finish up the 20.

pony172 11-17-2017 04:53 AM

I'd google it. It is a long list now, a lot of former fighter units. I would look at Guard over Reserve units because of the state structure. However, like real estate location is everything.

Voski 11-17-2017 04:59 AM


Originally Posted by pony172 (Post 2466927)
To the OP, you already have a regional job to get FW hours that can take you to the majors. I understand wanting to go the fighter route, it is once in a lifetime. But hear this out. Go fly RPA's in the Guard. We have transferred 2 Army rotorheads so far in our unit. No UPT required, we don't deploy and it is all the title 10 that you can stomach. We have a ton of airline guys and it is a great network to use to get hired. It is still the AF and can be a pain in the ass at times, but not a bad way to finish 20.

How long is the training? I’d be concerned about being out of the cockpit for over a year in building valuable 121 time for a major.

pony172 11-17-2017 08:54 AM


Originally Posted by Voski (Post 2467774)
How long is the training? I’d be concerned about being out of the cockpit for over a year in building valuable 121 time for a major.

Training 6-8 mos. All title 10 time, which is good for GI Bill and retirement. I'd say look at the big long term picture. You might miss a year out of cockpit toward your major job. But, you might get hired with the connections you make. You have a non-deploying gig til you hit 20. You can take all the mil leave you want/need early in you career. Some nice furlough insurance as well. Plus you are still serving.


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