Options for a 1P
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Quick note for the OP--separation pay is considered an advance on disability payments. So if you have 20% for messed up knees, you would not receive disability until the amount of your separation pay equaled what would have been paid in disability. IIRC, separation pay is taxable, while disability pay is not.
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To the OP, here's some perspective on RTP programs at Regionals from an Army RW perspective. You've already got ~125 T-34/T-6 hours from Primary, so you're a good chunk of the way to your R-ATP.
https://theaviatoragent.wordpress.co...tion-programs/
On his site, he also did some research and ranked the different programs since all are not created equal and some regionals have high FW time requirements for an eventual Captain upgrade, which would hurt you as a helo guy.
https://theaviatoragent.wordpress.co...r-pilots-2018/
Why are Regionals offering these programs with little to no strings attached? I'd argue the labor market is forcing them to. They're struggling to fill seats.
https://theaviatoragent.wordpress.co...tion-programs/
On his site, he also did some research and ranked the different programs since all are not created equal and some regionals have high FW time requirements for an eventual Captain upgrade, which would hurt you as a helo guy.
https://theaviatoragent.wordpress.co...r-pilots-2018/
Why are Regionals offering these programs with little to no strings attached? I'd argue the labor market is forcing them to. They're struggling to fill seats.
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I’ve been passed for promotion (1P) and I’m considering my options. I’ve applied with an ANG unit that appears to be highly competitive due to its mission, I’m optimistic but need to have a plan if not selected. Im a helo pilot in the USMC with about 1500 hours and I’m considering two options:
1: Get separation pay, go regionals with the RW transition program.
2: Take continuation (3 years additional commitment then seps pay) with the hopes of getting a C-12 (station) or FW flight school spot, get plenty of FW hours then go regionals for the 121 time.
Do you think it would be best to just go straight to 121 or stay in the USMC for additional 3 years? (Assuming I can get a FW gig). End goal is the majors.
I’ve been lurking on this forum for years now and I appreciate everyone’s willingness to help each other out.
1: Get separation pay, go regionals with the RW transition program.
2: Take continuation (3 years additional commitment then seps pay) with the hopes of getting a C-12 (station) or FW flight school spot, get plenty of FW hours then go regionals for the 121 time.
Do you think it would be best to just go straight to 121 or stay in the USMC for additional 3 years? (Assuming I can get a FW gig). End goal is the majors.
I’ve been lurking on this forum for years now and I appreciate everyone’s willingness to help each other out.
The hiring environment has changed markedly the last few years. As everyone else has already said, it's a boom period right now. Maybe it will last a decade or more, or maybe it won't. Get in while you can. What I recommend is you take a fat separation check, go to a regional, and go reserves/guard as soon as possible simultaneously so that you can keep building time for retirement. Believe me, the longer you spend after getting out before you go weekend warrior, the more you'll regret it later on when you are in your 40's and still having to drill to get to 20.
Even if you don't get into an aviation reserve billet/unit, freaking go be a yeoman or a desk jockey of some sort; even resign your commission and go an enlisted rate if you have to. Just get back in, get that cheap Tricare (medical + dental for about $70/month as a reservist), and keep building time to 20 and a military retirement. Who cares whether you get a flying billet right after AD sep; just get back in! You've got to be at least an O3 by this point and if you were passed over you've got nearly 10 years commissioned or more, so when you go into the reserves/guard, you usually start fresh with time in grade and the clock restarts, meaning you get a minimum of another 6 years as an O3 and who knows what it'll be like when you get to 16-18 years in. At its worse a few years ago I saw people taking Temp Early Retirement Authority (TERA) at anywhere from 15-19 years commissioned. A reserve pension/retirement (kicks in at 60) for even a very very senior O3 is a nice extra chunk of change.
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Even if you don't get into an aviation reserve billet/unit, freaking go be a yeoman or a desk jockey of some sort; even resign your commission and go an enlisted rate if you have to. Just get back in, get that cheap Tricare (medical + dental for about $70/month as a reservist), and keep building time to 20 and a military retirement. Who cares whether you get a flying billet right after AD sep; just get back in! You've got to be at least an O3 by this point and if you were passed over you've got nearly 10 years commissioned or more, so when you go into the reserves/guard, you usually start fresh with time in grade and the clock restarts, meaning you get a minimum of another 6 years as an O3 and who knows what it'll be like when you get to 16-18 years in. At its worse a few years ago I saw people taking Temp Early Retirement Authority (TERA) at anywhere from 15-19 years commissioned. A reserve pension/retirement (kicks in at 60) for even a very very senior O3 is a nice extra chunk of change.
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