USAF contracting out adversary air
12-05-2019, 07:57 PM
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USAF contracting out adversary air
$6+Billion contract to try to perform adversary air mission with civilian contracts - in part to address their own shortfall of fighter pilots.
https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zon...pport-contract
“For more than two decades, the adversary air industry had been slowly expanding, especially in the United States. This has accelerated as the Pentagon has faced budget caps and cuts, as well as a shrinking overall force size and a worn out fleet of 4th generation fighter jets, limiting the amount of personnel and aircraft individual services can dedicate to the aggressor role itself.“
https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zon...pport-contract
“For more than two decades, the adversary air industry had been slowly expanding, especially in the United States. This has accelerated as the Pentagon has faced budget caps and cuts, as well as a shrinking overall force size and a worn out fleet of 4th generation fighter jets, limiting the amount of personnel and aircraft individual services can dedicate to the aggressor role itself.“
12-06-2019, 06:04 AM
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Originally Posted by rickair7777
Part-time fun for airline pilots?
12-06-2019, 07:03 AM
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ATAC and Draken are the two biggest operators. Each bought the entire retired fleets of Spanish and French F1Cs. With other types, such as Kfirs, Hawker Hunters, L-39s, F-5s, and A-4s, you’re talking fleets of as many as 50+ jets at one company.
There was talk of using A-model Vipers at Fallon, but they went F-5 instead...cheaper, even with upgrades.
I think most airlines will require Chief Pilot approval for flying outside of the company, mostly for the duty-limits problem. Not like the Reserves, either, where you could mil-drop to meet a job requirement.
I’d consider it in retirement, but I’m hearing they are using 65 as an age cutoff....not sure how they can legally do that.
I see it as more of a bridge to the airlines for mil guys exiting that don’t have a major airline job offer yet. I know a guy who did that (and, he was still quite active in the Air Guard).
There was talk of using A-model Vipers at Fallon, but they went F-5 instead...cheaper, even with upgrades.
I think most airlines will require Chief Pilot approval for flying outside of the company, mostly for the duty-limits problem. Not like the Reserves, either, where you could mil-drop to meet a job requirement.
I’d consider it in retirement, but I’m hearing they are using 65 as an age cutoff....not sure how they can legally do that.
I see it as more of a bridge to the airlines for mil guys exiting that don’t have a major airline job offer yet. I know a guy who did that (and, he was still quite active in the Air Guard).
Last edited by UAL T38 Phlyer; 12-06-2019 at 05:53 PM.
12-06-2019, 08:10 AM
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Originally Posted by UAL T38 Phlyer
I’d consider it in retirement, but I’m hearing they are using 65 as an age cutoff....not sure how they can legally do that.
12-06-2019, 08:14 AM
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Originally Posted by UAL T38 Phlyer
I’d consider it in retirement, but I’m hearing they are using 65 as an age cutoff....not sure how they can legally do that.
12-06-2019, 10:27 AM
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Originally Posted by rickair7777
A viper can pull nine G's. I think they can make the case, they could if I was on the jury.
9 gs wasn’t fun when I was in my 30s!
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