Warning Letter on Delta Application
02-15-2023, 10:55 AM
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Warning Letter on Delta Application
Hi all,
I received a letter of counseling for something not flying related at my last unit back in 2020. It was given verbally as I was deployed already and was not filed--still trying to find out if it still exists. Any thoughts on if I should include this in my application or not worry about it?
TIA
I received a letter of counseling for something not flying related at my last unit back in 2020. It was given verbally as I was deployed already and was not filed--still trying to find out if it still exists. Any thoughts on if I should include this in my application or not worry about it?
TIA
02-15-2023, 09:01 PM
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I doubt they could ever get hold of something like that. Even a FOIA request should not return personnel info such as discipline or medical records.
In the past, some majors (yes DAL) would ask for copies of your FITREPs but I don't think they still do that.
So I doubt they'd ever find out, unless maybe your references know about it.
But in this climate, checking that box isn't going to keep them from calling a mil pilot, or even delay it IMO. They'd appreciate the honesty frankly.
However... do you have a copy of the letter? They might want to see that, and if you don't have any records to document your explanation that might be a problem. I've known that kind of thing to hang people up in the past. I suspect it wouldn't just due to the hiring demand but something to consider.
In the past, some majors (yes DAL) would ask for copies of your FITREPs but I don't think they still do that.
So I doubt they'd ever find out, unless maybe your references know about it.
But in this climate, checking that box isn't going to keep them from calling a mil pilot, or even delay it IMO. They'd appreciate the honesty frankly.
However... do you have a copy of the letter? They might want to see that, and if you don't have any records to document your explanation that might be a problem. I've known that kind of thing to hang people up in the past. I suspect it wouldn't just due to the hiring demand but something to consider.
02-16-2023, 09:03 AM
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Originally Posted by rickair7777
I doubt they could ever get hold of something like that. Even a FOIA request should not return personnel info such as discipline or medical records.
In the past, some majors (yes DAL) would ask for copies of your FITREPs but I don't think they still do that.
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In the past, some majors (yes DAL) would ask for copies of your FITREPs but I don't think they still do that.
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02-22-2023, 11:18 PM
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Originally Posted by ero17
Hi all,
I received a letter of counseling for something not flying related at my last unit back in 2020. It was given verbally as I was deployed already and was not filed--still trying to find out if it still exists. Any thoughts on if I should include this in my application or not worry about it?
TIA
I received a letter of counseling for something not flying related at my last unit back in 2020. It was given verbally as I was deployed already and was not filed--still trying to find out if it still exists. Any thoughts on if I should include this in my application or not worry about it?
TIA
Welcome to the club. Cool kids have paperwork. Next time hide the booze better.
02-23-2023, 04:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Grumble
Sounds like a desk LOC. I wouldn’t even bring it up. If it was filed actually it would go in your UIF for a period of time and then be expunged.
Welcome to the club. Cool kids have paperwork. Next time hide the booze better.
Welcome to the club. Cool kids have paperwork. Next time hide the booze better.
02-23-2023, 06:25 AM
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Was it a letter of caution or reprimand? Cautions or memos stay in the boss’ desk and get tossed when you leave a command. It’s just evidence to really throw the book at you if you F-up again. Reprimands stay in your record for at least some period of time.
I couldn’t imagine reporting a caution.
I couldn’t imagine reporting a caution.
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