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Old 02-15-2023 | 10:55 AM
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Hi all,

I received a letter of counseling for something not flying related at my last unit back in 2020. It was given verbally as I was deployed already and was not filed--still trying to find out if it still exists. Any thoughts on if I should include this in my application or not worry about it?

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Old 02-15-2023 | 09:01 PM
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I doubt they could ever get hold of something like that. Even a FOIA request should not return personnel info such as discipline or medical records.

In the past, some majors (yes DAL) would ask for copies of your FITREPs but I don't think they still do that.

So I doubt they'd ever find out, unless maybe your references know about it.

But in this climate, checking that box isn't going to keep them from calling a mil pilot, or even delay it IMO. They'd appreciate the honesty frankly.

However... do you have a copy of the letter? They might want to see that, and if you don't have any records to document your explanation that might be a problem. I've known that kind of thing to hang people up in the past. I suspect it wouldn't just due to the hiring demand but something to consider.
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Old 02-16-2023 | 07:08 AM
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They still ask for all of your FITREPS.
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Old 02-16-2023 | 07:09 AM
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If you include it….make sure you have paperwork to back it up. They are unreasonably strict on documentation.
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Old 02-16-2023 | 09:03 AM
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Originally Posted by rickair7777
I doubt they could ever get hold of something like that. Even a FOIA request should not return personnel info such as discipline or medical records.

In the past, some majors (yes DAL) would ask for copies of your FITREPs but I don't think they still do that.

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DAL still does check FITREP/OPR.
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Old 02-22-2023 | 11:18 PM
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Originally Posted by ero17
Hi all,

I received a letter of counseling for something not flying related at my last unit back in 2020. It was given verbally as I was deployed already and was not filed--still trying to find out if it still exists. Any thoughts on if I should include this in my application or not worry about it?

TIA
Sounds like a desk LOC. I wouldn’t even bring it up. If it was filed actually it would go in your UIF for a period of time and then be expunged.

Welcome to the club. Cool kids have paperwork. Next time hide the booze better.
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Old 02-23-2023 | 04:42 AM
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Sounds like a desk LOC. I wouldn’t even bring it up. If it was filed actually it would go in your UIF for a period of time and then be expunged.

Welcome to the club. Cool kids have paperwork. Next time hide the booze better.
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Old 02-23-2023 | 06:25 AM
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Was it a letter of caution or reprimand? Cautions or memos stay in the boss’ desk and get tossed when you leave a command. It’s just evidence to really throw the book at you if you F-up again. Reprimands stay in your record for at least some period of time.

I couldn’t imagine reporting a caution.
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