Extend Separation Date or Separate and pray

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Quote: Not trying to be harsh but for the benefit of others getting out you need to have started the follow on job process a long time ago. For a April separation they should have been sent last fall. In addition both Delta and United offer interviews and a hiring commitment a year in advance for military pilots. Apps should have been in long ago for both those programs.
You also should have a reserve or guard slot lined up or at least be heavily networking for a position.
Delta has said this, but in practice, I don't see anyone getting interviews with them until they are danger close to being available.
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Quote: Delta has said this, but in practice, I don't see anyone getting interviews with them until they are danger close to being available.
I believe it is a different application process. I know two pilots who got CJO's a year out. Here is the current info.

Delta is expanding its recruitment strategy by offering jobs in the flight deck to full-time, active-duty U.S. military pilots up to two years before their retirement.

These conditional job offers can also be extended to Active Guard Reserve pilots in what is a significant expansion from the previous timeline of six months before retirement. For all other military pilots, Delta will begin interview processes and extending conditional job offers to successful candidates one year before their availability date.
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Quote: Delta has said this, but in practice, I don't see anyone getting interviews with them until they are danger close to being available.
Theres a big difference between putting your applications in 12 months out, updating regularly, going to job fairs, being ready to go and getting called at the last minute for a interview/ CJO vs waiting to the last minute and publishing your applications for the first time 2 months out from separation and having meltdowns because it's a month until you've got no job and no one's called for an interview.

There's been a lot of the latter recently.
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Quote: Came here to reiterate, get out now, but be networking your butt off for plans b,c,d and e!

I got out right before Covid, but had a great DOD contract flying gig lined up. Able to support the fam well, had fun and got hired eventually at a cargo company.

edit: also directly affiliated to the reserves, got a small bonus for doing that. $200 per month for family healthcare is where it’s at!
‘this… at the rate of future hiring month(s) can make a huge difference if/when next downturn happens… save Pennie’s and get out asap!
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not sure where you are in the app process, but if you haven’t submitted…

Get your UMPP application in yesterday. I assume you already have? Because they’re calling and hiring people with availabilities past yours right now, and United is prioritizing UMPP applicants. It’s not a difficult app, just takes a little time. Get your other apps in too. Get them reviewed professionally, and go to PAPA (LAS early June) for meet and greets. Go to OBAP in late summer. Right now is crunch time. All ducks should be in a row and apps ready 1 year in advance.
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From what I've heard, United's MPP is meant for those who are closer to 1 year out from date of availability, not a few months. Regarding Delta, even if he completes the AON assessment and gets an interview, his interview will most likely be around 1 month after the online assessment, and if he receives a CJO, start date will be somewhere around 12 weeks after the CJO. Hopefully he has some money set aside for 4+ months of living expenses. Considering its mid-May, what did the OP eventually do?
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Quote: Overall, sounds like a decent plan. One question: what’s happened to flying? It seems like guys are hitting the end of their commitment with the same hours I had at the end of my first tour not so long ago. Have flying hours truly fallen off a cliff? Does nobody fly their butt off while deployed?
I'll speak to just my own aircraft/community, but it wouldn't surprise me if the theme is similar across the board.

We absolutely flew the wheels off the V-22 fleet throughout OEF and OIF. It isn't an exaggeration to say we broke the phase tree for the T/M/S as a whole. The squadrons really started paying for it circa 2020. Force Design didn't help matters when it seemed 2 squadrons on the West Coast (the one everyone wants and HQMC wasn't telling the top performers 'no.') and 1 on the East Coast were getting deactivated. HQMC eventually walked that decision back somewhat, in the sense of keeping the same number of squadrons but with 10 instead of 12 planes per.

In true Marine Corps fashion, material management was punted hard. It was not at all uncommon a year or two ago to see a squadron with 16-19 aircraft on the books while still being staffed for 12. Depending on the Wing you fell under, you also were forced to cancel your flight schedule and make it a maintenance/FCF day if your mission capable rate fell below 50%. Working weekends and 12 on/12 off galore. So it became a matter of maintenance manpower, too. Vast majority of USMC aircraft mechanics you talk to are one-and-done and want NOTHING to do with aviation maintenance as civilians.

People do still fly their butts off while deployed, but the only deployments to do on the USMC side are the MEUs and the Crisis Response Force out of Djibouti. Unless you're in a squadron slated for one of those, you're just barely hitting your fiscal year minimums. On average, it doesn't equate to much more than 125-150 hours per year over the course of a 6-8 year contract. It's enough to hit R-ATP mins for people who aren't complete turds, but it's incredibly far from being competitive for a major. It isn't 1995 in a Tomcat squadron anymore when you could expect to leave with 2,000 hours.
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