2 KC135's, one in question
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I was on an ANG KC-135 once that was refueling and got underrun by a fast mover. Their breakaway maneuver was power and climb. I can almost picture a KC-135 receiver aircraft hearing a breakaway call and just doing the same thing reflexively from habit intrusion. Especially since even the KC-135 guys who do have the capability to be refueled in flight have generally done tons more of refueling other aircraft than getting refueled themselves. Couple that with a lot of time zone changes and the sort of workload and fatigue you get in wartime and I could see that happening.
So sad.
So sad.
#13
tragic, and I pray the crew rest in peace. Tanker tracks are dangerous for sure… complacency (bid sky theory) while in the track and/or hand-flying as the tanker can exacerbate the risks IMO… and this not including the entry/exit before/after refueling. Not sure if they were lights out (I’m guessing they were) that just adds to the problem.
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tragic, and I pray the crew rest in peace. Tanker tracks are dangerous for sure… complacency (bid sky theory) while in the track and/or hand-flying as the tanker can exacerbate the risks IMO… and this not including the entry/exit before/after refueling. Not sure if they were lights out (I’m guessing they were) that just adds to the problem.
All of the above is pure speculation. Could they have gone beak to beak in an EMCON environment that made things more challenging? Maybe, but somehow Kosovo happened with no midairs. My bet is the USAF decided to utilize an under resourced and under manned capability more heavily than they should have. Six Airmen are dead as a result.
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