CFI/II & MEI credit for Mil IP school grads...
05-09-2008 | 09:48 PM
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I agree. Other than building time for a 121 job, I took the tour through flight school to learn how to instruct aerobatics. I can't wait to teach that stuff to my kids; someday - god willing.
On a different note, I don't know if this was covered in earlier posts. I was following this issue more closely before I separated last year. I believe there is a stipulation in the requirements that the Military IP would have to have passed a service approved instructor course, i.e. a CNATRA FITU or HITU for the naval aviators out there. I'm sure the AF and Army have something similar. Correct me if I am wrong, but this terminology would seem to exclude the "fleet" airframe IPs from being eligible.
From what I remember, the training command skippers endorsed the concept when the request for input came through Corpus last year. Last I heard was that something might becoming this fall. No check flight but, you would have to pass two exams for the CFI and CFII stamps.
On a different note, I don't know if this was covered in earlier posts. I was following this issue more closely before I separated last year. I believe there is a stipulation in the requirements that the Military IP would have to have passed a service approved instructor course, i.e. a CNATRA FITU or HITU for the naval aviators out there. I'm sure the AF and Army have something similar. Correct me if I am wrong, but this terminology would seem to exclude the "fleet" airframe IPs from being eligible.
From what I remember, the training command skippers endorsed the concept when the request for input came through Corpus last year. Last I heard was that something might becoming this fall. No check flight but, you would have to pass two exams for the CFI and CFII stamps.
05-10-2008 | 08:03 AM
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I agree. Other than building time for a 121 job, I took the tour through flight school to learn how to instruct aerobatics. I can't wait to teach that stuff to my kids; someday - god willing.
On a different note, I don't know if this was covered in earlier posts. I was following this issue more closely before I separated last year. I believe there is a stipulation in the requirements that the Military IP would have to have passed a service approved instructor course, i.e. a CNATRA FITU or HITU for the naval aviators out there. I'm sure the AF and Army have something similar. Correct me if I am wrong, but this terminology would seem to exclude the "fleet" airframe IPs from being eligible.
From what I remember, the training command skippers endorsed the concept when the request for input came through Corpus last year. Last I heard was that something might becoming this fall. No check flight but, you would have to pass two exams for the CFI and CFII stamps.
On a different note, I don't know if this was covered in earlier posts. I was following this issue more closely before I separated last year. I believe there is a stipulation in the requirements that the Military IP would have to have passed a service approved instructor course, i.e. a CNATRA FITU or HITU for the naval aviators out there. I'm sure the AF and Army have something similar. Correct me if I am wrong, but this terminology would seem to exclude the "fleet" airframe IPs from being eligible.
From what I remember, the training command skippers endorsed the concept when the request for input came through Corpus last year. Last I heard was that something might becoming this fall. No check flight but, you would have to pass two exams for the CFI and CFII stamps.
05-10-2008 | 08:24 AM
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That’s why there is a FAA mandated requirement for a knowledge test. Every FAR/AIM item you pointed out could easily be committed to memory.
Instruction on the other hand is a different thing. I’ve been “instructed” by CFI/II/MEI civilians who knew the books but hadn’t the faintest idea of what instruction is. Telling a guy with over 2000 hours that he is off his ALT by 200’ is absurd. A 2000 hour guy knows he’s off by 200’. What he need is information on how to make that particular airframe fly how he needs it to... i.e. “Try setting the piper about one half a dot above the horizon, then about an extra 200lbs of torque on the bottom engine when you go into the 45 deg AOB turns.”
Most military instructors have instructional capabilities that far exceed the 400 hour CFI/II/MEI civilian who’s trying to build enough hours to get that Regional job.
(On a side note, my “instructor” got fired about a month later when he let his student do a gear up landing. Guess that FAR/AIM knowledge didn’t help him there!)
Instruction on the other hand is a different thing. I’ve been “instructed” by CFI/II/MEI civilians who knew the books but hadn’t the faintest idea of what instruction is. Telling a guy with over 2000 hours that he is off his ALT by 200’ is absurd. A 2000 hour guy knows he’s off by 200’. What he need is information on how to make that particular airframe fly how he needs it to... i.e. “Try setting the piper about one half a dot above the horizon, then about an extra 200lbs of torque on the bottom engine when you go into the 45 deg AOB turns.”
Most military instructors have instructional capabilities that far exceed the 400 hour CFI/II/MEI civilian who’s trying to build enough hours to get that Regional job.
(On a side note, my “instructor” got fired about a month later when he let his student do a gear up landing. Guess that FAR/AIM knowledge didn’t help him there!)
Totally agree. If this concept goes through I'll get my CFI/II/MEI, but it isn't like I am going to go right out to the first civilian flight school and ask to start instructing new PPLs. Just like everything else I've done - I would expect some type of IUT and many hours of book work to get up to speed. I'm pretty sure though that after putting in some good study that my flight experience and my 7 years as a IP would count for something against that 300 hr CFI. I'm pretty sure that I could do a fair to middlin' job
Btw - I LOVE INSTRUCTING!
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