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Old 12-27-2007, 06:49 AM
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Hey,

I was wondering if you fly for the national gaurd for 6 years can you then transition into the regoinals and get hired? Also will flying for the NG be enough to get you into the majors or do you still need a four year degree?
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Hey,

I was wondering if you fly for the national gaurd for 6 years can you then transition into the regoinals and get hired? Also will flying for the NG be enough to get you into the majors or do you still need a four year degree?

I guess it depends on what you flew and how many hours you have. You'll need a 4 yr degree. Where do you fly?
 
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Hey,

I was wondering if you fly for the national gaurd for 6 years can you then transition into the regoinals and get hired? Also will flying for the NG be enough to get you into the majors or do you still need a four year degree?
It's impossible for you to be a PILOT in the National Guard unless you already have a bachelor's degree. No offense to anyone, but people need to differentiate between being an aircrew member (flying) and being a pilot (flying). If you're not acting as a pilot, NONE of the "flying" time you have will count towards any type of piloting job in the future. BTW, the need for a bachelor's degree has been discussed to exhaustion, go get your degree and leave that poor horse alone....
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It's impossible for you to be a PILOT in the National Guard unless you already have a bachelor's degree. No offense to anyone, but people need to differentiate between being an aircrew member (flying) and being a pilot (flying). If you're not acting as a pilot, NONE of the "flying" time you have will count towards any type of piloting job in the future. BTW, the need for a bachelor's degree has been discussed to exhaustion, go get your degree and leave that poor horse alone....

You can be a helo pilot in the Army National Guard without a bachelor's degree. Helo time will not help you much with the airlines though.

You can also fly small army fixed-wing aircraft, but those slots I think go VERY senior...old helo guys near retirement want that FW time for the airlines.
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If you are talking ARMY NG, then yes, I know a few guys that have got on with good regionals, no problem, but they did have their commercial ticket and about 300-1000 hrs civilian fixed wing flight instructor time...If you are talking AIR NG, then you should be able to get hired by a major after 6-8 years depending on what/how much you fly. If you are talking rotary wing Army, then you need to fly as much fixed wing civilian as you can on the outside.
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I'm sorry, you guys are right. Warrant Officers aren't required to have a bachelor's degree, though many of them do, lot's even master's degrees. So, yes, you can fly in the Army National Guard without a bachelor's, but the Air National Guard (Air Force) doesn't have warrant officers so they do require a bachelor's degree to be a rated officer (pilot). Sorry for the error.
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It's ok, limelight, you're a C-17 driver, we expect you to be wrong most of the time...jk!
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I'll remember that next time I see 30 degrees and 283 knots at the turn at the end of the track. hehe.
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It's impossible for you to be a PILOT in the National Guard unless you already have a bachelor's degree. No offense to anyone, but people need to differentiate between being an aircrew member (flying) and being a pilot (flying). If you're not acting as a pilot, NONE of the "flying" time you have will count towards any type of piloting job in the future. BTW, the need for a bachelor's degree has been discussed to exhaustion, go get your degree and leave that poor horse alone....
I have a few friends that became pilots in the AIR NATIONAL GUARD (1998,1999) without a bachelor's degree. 2 of the guys had Associate's degrees and were enlisted in the Wing. I agree the units are far and few but it has been done!!! Usually the unit has to be hurting for pilots and it's normally a unit that is in a remote location. 1 guy went to Vermont!

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I stand corrected again, still, for most, you need a bachelor's degree to become a commissioned officer in the U.S. Armed Forces. The horse is still dead...
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